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All Forum Posts by: Andrew Lackey

Andrew Lackey has started 5 posts and replied 29 times.

Post: BRRRR - Refinance now or wait until rents raised to market rate??

Andrew LackeyPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Roswell, GA
  • Posts 30
  • Votes 7

@Chance Brookins hey! It is rented now at 975 until July 2020. I’m still trying to figure out if I should refi ASAP or wait until new lease with higher rents in place.

Post: BRRRR - Refinance now or wait until rents raised to market rate??

Andrew LackeyPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Roswell, GA
  • Posts 30
  • Votes 7

@Todd Rasmussen I'm thinking I might go ahead and check rates and see what it would be to go ahead and refi

Post: BRRRR - Refinance now or wait until rents raised to market rate??

Andrew LackeyPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Roswell, GA
  • Posts 30
  • Votes 7
Originally posted by @Nicholas LaGatta:

I would go ahead and get a loan estimate from a lender with your current situation, then ask them the impact if you waited to 7/1 with higher rents.  There are too many moving parts here to know if waiting would make a material impact.  However, I can tell you adequate debt-service coverage can lower the interest rates on certain loan products with certain lenders for certain borrowers, but it might not matter at all.  

I don't see it being worth the effort or money to break the lease or do cash for keys just to make this refi happen, just ride it out until the lease expires.  Worst case, accept a higher interest rate if you want the cash out right now.  

I don't see any value in getting an appraisal at this point.  Your lender most likely will require their own appraisal anyways.  

 Thanks 

Post: What are you making on your SFH?

Andrew LackeyPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Roswell, GA
  • Posts 30
  • Votes 7

You should make minimum $200 per SFR door in Atlanta market after all expenses

Post: BRRRR - Refinance now or wait until rents raised to market rate??

Andrew LackeyPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Roswell, GA
  • Posts 30
  • Votes 7

It's a beautiful fall morning! The birds are singing, the sun is shining, the BRRRR of winter is not fully here yet ;) Or maybe it is?!?!

haaaaa....ok enough funny business down to business of this post. 

Ok, I have a property I just purchased a few months ago that I want some feedback on whether or not to refinance now or later.

Situation:

Property purchased 130k cash

$10,227 in repairs

"All in" cost so far $143,451 total including everything

Rents for $975 through 6/30/2020 

Cashflowing right now $730 if i include monthly property mgmt, insurance, and taxes

ARV after repair approx $180k

Rent will be raised to $1200-1300/month 7/1/2020

Once refinanced, will cashflow $220-250 depending on rates.

Cash on cash return between 27-63% depending on how things shake out on ARV(probably sounds crazy but this accounts for all in cost 143,451+closing cost to refi estimating 8,000-rental cashflow now until June 2020 5,840-refi cash out payment 138,000)

Questions I want to get some opinions on:

1. Should I let is cashflow at $730, with no mortgage until 6/30/2020 and just wait to refinance once rent is raised to appropriate market rates, or should I refinance now, and make literally no cashflow until 7/1?

2. If i refinance now, I would have my cash back and more, but is it really worth it?

3. I'd like to have the cash back to be able to redeploy the $, but is that smart?

4. Would you try to break the lease and give cash for keys?

5. How much cash would you offer?

6. Would it be smart or ethical to ask them to vacate for a payment this time of year?(my management company says keep tenant in place until lease is up)

7. Should I get appraisal done before lease is up so i can refi very quickly once new lease is in place?

8. Any other suggestions to make this deal better?

Curious to see what reactions and opinions i get!

Thanks BP. I hope to hear from you soon!

      Post: I just built a 36 unit apartment complex.

      Andrew LackeyPosted
      • Real Estate Investor
      • Roswell, GA
      • Posts 30
      • Votes 7

      @George Yu

      What amount of cash do you need to build a 36 unit apartment? Just curious what the entrance fee is

      Post: Property Manager Loyalty?

      Andrew LackeyPosted
      • Real Estate Investor
      • Roswell, GA
      • Posts 30
      • Votes 7

      @Monika Haebich I am not sure what you mean by "guaranteed wholesale net income." I would be working with a PM that does not give me leads, and then have a prospective PM that i cold called, sending me leads for potential deals. Can you please elaborate on what you mean?

      THANKS!

      Post: Property Manager Loyalty?

      Andrew LackeyPosted
      • Real Estate Investor
      • Roswell, GA
      • Posts 30
      • Votes 7

      @Dawn Brenengen i like your response. "don't bite the hand that feeds you." thank you 

      @John Van Uytven, @Char Prado,  and @Account Closed for your opinions as well. It is really helpful getting some options from everyone. If this deal goes through i will spread out the property management to different providers

      Post: Property Manager Loyalty?

      Andrew LackeyPosted
      • Real Estate Investor
      • Roswell, GA
      • Posts 30
      • Votes 7
      Originally posted by @Peter Grosso:

      I fired one property manager about 8 months ago and split my properties into two management companies.   At first I did it so that I didn't have to move some many properties if things went bad again.   I actually learned what each property manager was best at.  I now will use one management company for lower end properties and the other for my "C+" and "B" properties.   

      Bottom line, I was learned from working with different managers. 

      i like having two managers for different classes of propterties 

      thank you Peter

      Post: Property Manager Loyalty?

      Andrew LackeyPosted
      • Real Estate Investor
      • Roswell, GA
      • Posts 30
      • Votes 7

      their client*