All Forum Posts by: Andrew Halbert
Andrew Halbert has started 21 posts and replied 136 times.
Post: Buying new house and using current home as first rental ?

- Macomb, MI
- Posts 141
- Votes 45
Originally posted by @Jeremy Morris:
Thanks @Matt Vogt I will certainly have to double check the paperwork. We actually have not even closed on the refi yet.
I didn't explicitly say "ohh by the way I don't live there anymore", but we changed our mailing address with the bank and continued to have all our business accounts at the same branch. etc... They are getting paid, so I don't think they care.
Post: 25% DP for investment property

- Macomb, MI
- Posts 141
- Votes 45
OP,
Please don't start your investment career by doing so fraudulently. I don't even think this is a real post.
Post: Buying new house and using current home as first rental ?

- Macomb, MI
- Posts 141
- Votes 45
This is the same strategy I used to get into a better primary residence for my family and add our first property to our portfolio.
I put a Heloc on my primary, pulled out the DP for our new primary house from that heloc. I was able to grab a conventional 30 year on a 255K house with 20% down. The entire DP was from the heloc on our primary residence at the time. It was tricky though, they bank was not thrilled with where the DP was coming from. What did help was that I had good credit, great work work history and good income. They absolutely figured in my heloc payment into the equation.
My broker was good and was able to structure this well so things looks as good as they could to the bank. but YES, traditional lenders are VERY interested with where the down payment comes from.
If it's anything other than good old fashioned saving, then be prepared to prepare statements, letters, explanations etc.. It's not impossible obviously but is much more effort. At the end of the day if your DTI, job history, credit scores, employment history are good, you are probably going to be able to make a non-traditional source of DP work.
IMO, and it's just MO, I would exhaust all efforts to use a traditional mortgage. Rates are so low and the process is pretty straightforward. Save the creative financing for when you have no other options. I have a feeling you still have options to go traditional.
Post: 4 months in, 2 flips down with a 9-5 and 3 kids! - With pictures!

- Macomb, MI
- Posts 141
- Votes 45
Very nice and congrats!!
So the properties have not sold yet?
Post: Refinance troubles in the BRRRR method

- Macomb, MI
- Posts 141
- Votes 45
Thanks everyone for the guidance. Once again BP delivers.
Post: Is investing in Michigan too good to be true?

- Macomb, MI
- Posts 141
- Votes 45
There is a ton of inventory right now in the Warren/roseville area. Rents are stagnant.
Post: HELOC to fund deals?

- Macomb, MI
- Posts 141
- Votes 45
Yes,
We used our Heloc to acquire several units. Some funded fully from Heloc, Some we used for the 25% DP.
Post: New member from Michigan

- Macomb, MI
- Posts 141
- Votes 45
Welcome @Zech Stimson
This is a great place to learn and study. I highly suggest you check out the podcasts. So much information to gain.
And cheers to you from a fellow Michigander!
Post: Refinance troubles in the BRRRR method

- Macomb, MI
- Posts 141
- Votes 45
Originally posted by @Shaun Weekes:
You can use rental immediately. You need to find a lender that has no OVERLAYS and they will be able to use 75% of your lease amount towards your income.
I wrote a blog on this about 2 years ago and if you have any additional questions please ask as this community is extremely knowledgeable.
Shaun,
Do you still have a link to your article?
The search option and google are your best friends at this point.