Originally posted by "OGStilts":
Amerikote-
I don't want to hijack this thread here so this is my last post on this subject but it is obvious to me you are not a licensed contractor as you have said as much in other posts. It's also been said by you that you have learned everything you know about construction from the DIY orange book from Home Depot. Then in another post you talk about construction classes you have taken. Hitching your wagon to your electrician brother does not mean you know the first thing about construction. I'm smelling a fly by night contractor who when he gets in over his head takes the money and runs and that pisses a legit contractor off.
You did hijack it. But for some reason think I claimed to be a GC??? Never! some GC's are the dumbest people I met. SUBS know their portions better and are the experts. GC's know how to coordinate them, to check code, and thats quite general. After many jobs through the years, including roofing even, you seem to think I cannot do a roof because I did not take an exam even though I did it for a JOB? I also worked construction 4 years, and did register for the state GC exam and qualified, but dont have a desire to chase around subs. or tolerate people building homes through me,so did not take it.
As for homedepot, never touched the book. I only reference local code books if unfamiliar with something. But, even that means I cant know anything I guess. Hell,I have built a house license free legally because it was to be MINE to live in,and I probably did 60% myself except the framing, basic service, trusses, slab, hvac, and exterior. The ARCHITECT is the brains, not the GC. HE determines if the house falls over or not. The GC just follows HIS plans.
Lastly, I will NEVER do anything to others property that is a HUGE undertaking or liability requiring licensure. Tile, carpentry, drywall, yea I dont care I will do it unlicensed. Would I wire your house? No! MAYBE a new light, NOT the whole house or even replace the circuit box. Not big liabilties otherwise, and I know and have done them, then I will do them under the table. A code officer does not know if I am inside a house installing cabinets, tile, nothing. SOME people like to save the cash and hassel, the end result is the same, as is the quality. Experience.
Well, a good investor also looks for maximizing profit, and since I never was a GC nor wanted a trade license, I tended to AVOID paying people to do what I USED to get paid for in many cases through my college jobs. I never was a contractor til last year, in a different field; Paintinglicense and REFACING license. So, it never mattered if I was a good contractor or not, just that I had damn good skills for many trades AND experience in many work related over the years, that my work came out NICE and I tended to OVER fasten, strengthen, support, what I could.
NOT until I invested did I EVER care about code either. It was then that things were done right, and EVERY gc or sub I ever was around NEVER followed code to a tee, or were even there half the time, if the end result was unmeasurable, undetectable, or unseen, which a TON isnt, they just cared that what was visible at inspection points was up to code.
When I DID pull permits,I always passed inspection. No DIY book tells you a 3/8 slope per ft on a drainpipe, etc etc. because CODE IS DIFFERENT COUNTY TO COUNTY, STATE TO STATE! And, is readily available for all trades at your courthouse or online. Its updated yearly here.
Electric comment:
Its VERY easy. IF you have done it. Again, no diy exists. Faulty wiring? Well, potentially manufacturer defects, staples or drywall screws penetrating a wire, or even someone as I said before,who doesnt have ANY experience not accommodating a load properly. Many ways. But other than not doing due diligence and with zero knowledge powering something improperly, it tends to appear mostly ways in which human error is not so much the issue as is faults within the materials.
You are entitled to that. I respect that. But also, a few posts dont convey hardly enough to test my knowledge. I am NOT the most law abiding citizen. Yes, perfectionist, but my rule is, if I can save a buck, and have the same exact end result, and the only risk is fines, and I can validate as such from my past experience, I will risk it. 20 homes later, 1 ground up, 5 jobs since I was 16 in labor, Im confident enough to go with what I have gone with the past 17 years.