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All Forum Posts by: Tom Server

Tom Server has started 51 posts and replied 113 times.

Quote from @Jose Jacob:
Quote from @Tom Server:

Hello, I'm looking to reduce my offer after the home inspection. How do I go about getting estimates for repairs when I'm not the owner of the house? I want to offer estimates proof to justify my reduced offers.  Such repairs I want to get quotes for are like the roof replacement, hot water heater replacement, plumbing repairs from leaks , electrical repairs ?

Any tips to write up and send to the seller?


 Its all depends on several factors.  Are you buying this property to Long hold or fix and flip ?  Have you seen the property before putting an offer ? Did they say the house will sell AS IS ? IN some states, the inspector will give a rough estimate of repairs.  Is this in a Sellers market area of buyers market area ?  Seller has any back up offers ?  

If you can answer all of those questions, I can guide you.  Hole to hear from you

This is an 3 family investment property im purchasing.. the home is a older home, priced right. 

I had a home inspection and it came back with a bunch of things that need to be repaired.

My relator is the selling agent and my agent.  

Here is his email to me-
If you can put together a list of the items that are most concerning and an estimated cost for each item, then we can approach the seller and say, " these are the issues, and this is what it is going to cost me", then we can negotiate with the seller on an agreed amount. Hopefully he is willing to give up something.

and Here is my list that I'm sending him. 
These are just estimates of cost 

Both Roofs- $20,000

Boiler unit 1 replaced installed $10,000

Hot water heater apt 2 (28 years old) $2000

wrong door/fire proof door- $500

Termite treatment $1000

Electrical box wiring wrong in garage ?

Back Deck, reinforced/rebuilt ?

Mold unit 1 bathroom-

Plumbing basement leaks-

oil tank rusting/ inspect and paint - ?

rotted wood throughout the exterior of homes -?

Little info of the home. Selling for 290k .. the accepted 250k .. I was thinking of coming back and offering $230 which he would come back most likely at $240

thoughts?

Hello, I'm looking to reduce my offer after the home inspection. How do I go about getting estimates for repairs when I'm not the owner of the house? I want to offer estimates proof to justify my reduced offers.  Such repairs I want to get quotes for are like the roof replacement, hot water heater replacement, plumbing repairs from leaks , electrical repairs ?

Any tips to write up and send to the seller?

Quote from @Ke Nan Wang:

The credit you should ask for would be the one that's not apparent when you made the offer. If you made a offer on a property that clearly shows a roof that needs to be replaced, exterior siding needs to be repaired, a boiler or the AC that's at the end of the life age, then your offer should have factored in those elements. If you made an offer on a property that appears to have a very beautiful nice new roof, but during the inspection, the inspector discovered a few leaky spots or an unpermitted work, then it's more reasonable to heavily negotiate on those items. 

This is doing business at the elite level. You negotiate in good faith with class.  

But if you don't mind playing at the amature level and just want to squeeze every penny out of the seller and don't mind lose the deal, then you can sure ask everything you listed and the seller can either counter or worst case decline your request and walk away. 

Mr Wang that is your strategy of doing business and self proclaimed elite level. 
Every situation is different, so what might seem "amateur" to you could be an "elite" business move for others! 

my agent is also the selling agent .. this was his response 



OK, how do you want to handle this? Are you satisfied with the report , or do you want to try and squeeze the seller for some type of compensation? Let me know, we only have a limited time to do this.

I'm in the middle of purchasing a older property. Its a duplex with a detached 3 car garage with an apartment on top.. so 3 doors... 

The home is 102 years old. Seller was selling it for 290k, He settled for 250k.

I just had my home inspection completed, The 2 inspectors said the home wasn't in that bad of shape for what it is. "its a 100 year home, rental property, its going to have some wear"  

Im trying to figure out how much of a seller credit or have repairs done. Some major items do need to be repaired so I'm estimating the costs.

Major items

2 Roofs- $20,000

Boiler -$15,000

Termite damage- treatment $3500

Plumbing leaks- $2000 ?

wrong door/fire proof door- $500

oil tank rusting/ inspect and paint -  ?

rotted wood thru out the exterior -?

Whats a realistic credit should I ask for ?

Quote from @Colleen F.:

@Tom Server  With your welcome letter I would ask them to clear the garage or at least get it divided up. If the bays are separate with locking doors you can rent them separately or include the one with the electrical panel with the unit it services and charge a higher price. For now maybe you include them since the lease is silent on the issue.  I  do garage addendums. The garage terms are separate but attached to the lease so that when they leave they can no longer rent a garage. The addendum specifies they cannot do mechanical work in the garage (e.g. oil changes), they are for storage only and I am not responsible for the contents. (if mice or squirrels are in the garage do you want to hear about damage to their stuff? )


 do you have a contract you could share

Post: Blind purchase of a duplex

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Quote from @Nicholas L.:

I don't believe it cash flows net $1400 a month.

And how do you know what condition it's in, whether the tenants are current, whether they're on leases?

And how much experience do you have?

Not enough info to know what to do.

@Nicholas L.look at @Bill B. comment in here!!

Post: Blind purchase of a duplex

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Quote from @Andrew Syrios:

In some situations, I might put a blind offer on a property but I would put in contingencies that would allow me to walk if it's not what I expect and never close without having viewed it.


 of course! I was born at night , but not last night !!

Post: Blind purchase of a duplex

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Quote from @Bill B.:

See what I mean about reduced competition? At least two posters said they wouldn’t even look at the deal. That’s what makes these a win. You eliminate anyone who wants a reason not to put in an offer. If the property was $30k more and cash flowed only a $1,000 instead of $1,200 suddenly they be interested if they could see the inside. You’re being paid to be an investor. Nobody expects you to close without seeing the inside and making an offer costs nothing

Bill thank you for the encouragement!