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All Forum Posts by: Tom Server

Tom Server has started 52 posts and replied 116 times.

Quote from @Chris Seveney:
Quote from @Tom Server:

I’m looking for advice on the best way to access about $100k to pay off my 401k loan, credit card debt, and cover some rehab costs.
Here the information-  I purchased 2 properties last year, 1 is a rental property that i had for about 8 months, the balance of the mortage is 170k, worth around 300k . The second is a rehab property that I purchased for myself, I purchased it out right for 100k. Money came from 50k of savings and 50k borrowed from a 401k account that I am paying myself back in 5 years with a payment of 1000 a month.  With this property I racked up some credit card debt, around 20k and I need another 20k to pay contractors/supplies. The property will be worth 220 when complete. I’m considering doing a cash-out refinance, not sure what the best options is , to use the rental property or the rehab property. Dont know where to start any suggestions will be great thank you







For the 300k property they are probably not going to let you pull any money out based on the amount of credit you already owe. But lets say they do allow you. You could get at max 70k from that deal (minus closing costs). That will not get you to 100k as at best you could go DSCR and get 80% (if numbers even work).

Regarding property not complete, if you have paid cash to date, your best bet would be to get a hard money loan for $100k to complete the renovations and pay off some debt and then refinance once its completed. The hard money will probably be 10-15% plus 3-5 points for a deal like this.


 thank you Chris

Quote from @Nathan Gesner:

Pulling equity out of a property is another form of loan. You have to borrow your equity and then make payments on it. With today's high interest rates, it usually doesn't make sense. You would borrow against the equity at 7% or more, then use the money to pay off a credit card? It would be better to open a new card with 0% interest on balance transfers, move your debt to that card, then pay it off like a mad man before interest is charged.

Your scenario indicates you aren't financially disciplined. I would consider selling one of the properties, paying off the debt, creating a reserve for your remaining investment, and ensuring you are 100% financially stable before you invest again.

 I beg to differ @Nathan Gesner, about the financially disciplined. These were investments, the value of the assest are there, its the liquid that ran short and had to resort to credit cards to fix up the property. The only flaw I had was I purchased the property out right, where I should of applied for a mortage. So instead of interested towards a mortage, im paying interest towards credit cards

I’m looking for advice on the best way to access about $100k to pay off my 401k loan, credit card debt, and cover some rehab costs.
Here the information-  I purchased 2 properties last year, 1 is a rental property that i had for about 8 months, the balance of the mortage is 170k, worth around 300k . The second is a rehab property that I purchased for myself, I purchased it out right for 100k. Money came from 50k of savings and 50k borrowed from a 401k account that I am paying myself back in 5 years with a payment of 1000 a month.  With this property I racked up some credit card debt, around 20k and I need another 20k to pay contractors/supplies. The property will be worth 220 when complete. I’m considering doing a cash-out refinance, not sure what the best options is , to use the rental property or the rehab property. Dont know where to start any suggestions will be great thank you






I just researched, cash out refi

Quote from @Lynn McGeein:

@Tom Server if you have a $200,000 property that you only owe $50,000 on, can’t you refi (or take a new loan out if there is no actual mortgage due to the 401k loan) for $150,000, pay off the 401k loan and credit card debt and still have money left to re-invest? Or if you don’t qualify for that, then sell that property, pay off the debt and invest the remainder after taxes? Either would work to eliminate your debt.


 Well thats what im trying to find out.. The property that I purchased its going to be my primary resident for a few years.. Would that be a refi or a second mortage ?

Quote from @James Mc Ree:

Pay off the credit card debt first. It costing you 15% - 20% or more on the carried balance if you don't have a promotion. This will get you $600/month back.

Check how your plan handles 401k loan payments. I believe most (all?) plans have you paying your principle and interest back to yourself. If that is the case, the $1,000 per month impacts your operational budget, but is really a transfer into your savings. You can use this money to pay off the credit card debt if you haven't already spent it.

Maybe you got a steal of a deal, but I am suspicious that you spent $100k for a rehab property and it is actually worth $200k. Did you mean it will be worth $200k after the renovation? If so, your $100k purchase + $100k renovation isn't actually making you a profit. Otherwise, if it is currently $200k and will be $300k(?) after renovation, consider selling it to harvest the profits and get out of debt.

The rental property looks like it is covering itself. You can get a lower rate now, but it may be worth waiting until around the end of the year to refi. You will get a better refi rate if you don't take money out, but the refi will cost you closing costs.


 Thanks James, yeah i know I have pay the credit cards off first.. Im sending $600 for min payments and 350 is in interest between 3 cards. 

The 401k loan of 50k was to pay for half of the rehab property. 

The rehab was 100k, and I put an 20k into , 10k of it is part of the credit card debt. I can sell the property for 200k.

Quote from @Mike Grudzien:

Not knowing your interest rate on your own credit card with a $25k balance is perhaps one of the reasons you are in this situation.  I don't mean to berate you, but that speaks volumes.  This forum is good for ideas and some answers, but you really should find someone local in your area that you can sit down with, brainstorm and get advice from.  Look for a financial mentor and follow their advice.

Mike


 Mike, thanks for your input.

Quote from @Theresa Harris:

What is the interest rate on your credit card debt?  $25K is a large balance.


 i dont know off top of the head, but they are high , no promotions 

I'm seeking guidance on consolidating my current debts, as I've recently made several property purchases that have resulted in financial strain. I acquired a rehab property for $100k, funding it with $50k in cash and borrowing $50k from my 401k, which requires a monthly repayment of approximately $1,000 over five years. This property is currently valued at around $200k. 

Additionally, I hold $25k in credit card debt, with minimum payments totaling about $600 per month.

Furthermore, I own a rental investment property with a remaining mortgage balance of $170k at a 7.6% interest rate, while the property itself is valued at $275k. Mortage is around $1700 and rent roll is $3,500.

I'm particularly concerned that the 401k loan repayment is significantly impacting my income. I’m interested in exploring options to consolidate my debts, including potentially refinancing both properties to improve my financial position. Specifically, I'm considering whether it would be feasible to secure a loan for approximately $245k to pay off the credit card debt, the 401k loan, and the existing mortgage on my rental property.

I would appreciate any insights or strategies that could help me effectively manage and streamline my financial obligations. Thank you!

So, I ended up increasing there rent from 950 to 1100... contract signed, took effect 10/1 .. section 8 already paid a portion of it $1050, she owes remaing $50... anyway.. after they signed the contract a week later they sent me an email giving 60 day notice and are planning on moving out 12/1   ughhh