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All Forum Posts by: Alton P.

Alton P. has started 4 posts and replied 31 times.

good points, made the first mistake before and i'm still sorting thru my messages lol

Too many RE gurus are telling people to overleverage themselves into the worst housing market (and potentially economy) in decades. Half of them are below 30 and have never seen a downmarket in their investing lives, and are getting new investors prioritizing the wrong things, with highly risky strategies backed by long strings of "ifs." This post is my small way of advising against that and hopefully steering some people straight.

There's no shame in sitting on cash, building reserves, and being patient right now. The one benefit of a semi-locked market is that you won't get left in the dust. Take the time to prepare for major expenses, whether that comes from your dayjob, some small side hustle, or a startup you're grinding on day and night.

I sold one company and started another before getting back into real estate recently. Several years ago, even with high cash flow from a business, I felt fairly locked out of the places I wanted to purchase due to endlessly rising prices and rates that required constant underwriting revisions to the point where it wasn't worth the time expense. The liquidity event helped, as have recent MicroSaaS and other projects that bring in some butter and egg money. 

The takeaway is that yes, while inflation destroys cash, it is still king. It's very hard to play the game of real estate without it, and I'd encourage all new investors to work hard to maximize their income upside, and work hard to get into a stable position before obliterating your DTI on a capex nightmare. Don't be house poor or you may be houseless when the next downmarket, job loss, recession, or stubborn leak shows itself.

If anyone is looking for advice on small software companies, or agencies, or balancing a startup during a day job, I will try to reply or answer DMs as best possible.

Did BiggerPockets not do their research on this guy? Known course grifter. He made his early money on Bitcoin and was not successful at Cintas. He buys social media engagement to push his products. Source: got a buddy that knew him personally in college. He's taking advantage of people and BP should be very careful about associating with him and people like him, particularly for a podcast that so often denounces all the "course sellers and guru wannabes." Not a good luck.

Post: $5.3M to use but 0 experience. Advice...?

Alton P.Posted
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Quote from @Carlos Ptriawan:

you could have zero income and collect 6 figures a year and still live in hawaii, it's just located in different zip code for different people, still on the sam island, some area can be cheaper than ohio still LOL ; hawaii is not equivalant to expensive but yes it's best place to live until 115, lot of folks said they live longer there becoz they have much less stress lol


 Thanks for the advice! Gonna have to keep researching areas there of interest.

Post: $5.3M to use but 0 experience. Advice...?

Alton P.Posted
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Quote from @Tim Hall:

@Alton Pettit if I had 5.3m hmmm even if I parked it in a savings account at 5% interest rate I’d have a return of $265,000 and that is totally passive.

I could then become the bank for other savvy more experienced investors that would get you 10-12 percent and that is also relatively passive. You’ve just got to make the connections. You could become part of a syndicate and that also is passive and can see returns at 8-10% These are my options if i want to be truly passive.

If you want a job then you can buy a str, at the moment it’s pretty hit and miss but you’d be busy.

You could buy 1 big multi family and that would give you lots to do too until you systematized it.

You could buy lots of different houses that would give you lots to do too.

You could leverage the money partner up with an experienced re investor and go balls deep. Whoa what a ride.

Depends what you want out of life.


 Appreciate the advice, private lending is not off the table down the line. lots more research to do first though. thanks.

Post: $5.3M to use but 0 experience. Advice...?

Alton P.Posted
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Quote from @Craig Janet:

This can't be real. You have 5 million and your posting on a internet chat board to invest. Put your money in the bank and live off the $300K a year or just keep doing what your doing and make another 5 mil. Do you really want to deal with tenants and leaking toilets.


 Free advice is free advice. Wanting to put into real estate because that's the standard advice i've heard to protect wealth once it's already earned, and it'd be nice to have some assets that aren't fairy dust company valuations for once. Diversification. Not so hard to fathom. Believe it or don't. Appreciate the comment nonetheless

Post: $5.3M to use but 0 experience. Advice...?

Alton P.Posted
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Quote from @Carlos Ptriawan:

if you can lend me 3 mil with 3% rate I would borrow your money right now.

I will do my hyper-active flip multi property strategy in the Kona and I can safely make myself IRR 40% :-)

Maybe buying 7 mil house and sell it for 9 mil in 9 months, sounds good ? :-) 


 lol even a newbie like me knows that a 3% rate for a sub-6 month flip ain't happening

Post: $5.3M to use but 0 experience. Advice...?

Alton P.Posted
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Quote from @Christie Gahan:

Stop talking about your net worth.

The Con Artists will flock to you.

The people who actually know what they are  doing won't believe you.

Take a class at a local Jr College on Personal Finance / Investing.  Learn about investing in stocks, bonds and real estate.  Know how to compare them to each other.  Understand Beta.  Learn from some one who has nothing to sell to you.  Then, dollar cost average in to different types of investments.  Make your mistakes with small amounts.  

$250k is about 5% of your net worth.  I would set the goal to invest $250k in the first year.  Do the same in year 2.  You will be so much better off at the beginning of year 3!  Move the bulk of the money in to US govt guaranteed funds.  Buy a huge umbrella policy.

Good Luck


 Just trying to give context for best advice, but you're right, been flooded with messages and plenty of comments from people who think just because somone's got money that they should know everything about RE. I appreciate your advice.

Post: $5.3M to use but 0 experience. Advice...?

Alton P.Posted
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Quote from @V.G Jason:

Good job on your success, but this can be blown really quickly. I'd be very careful about advertising your position publicly, and would do more reading and less asking right now if REI is your end game. Figure out what interests you and then pursue that with the capital.

I've seen countless mid to late 20 year olds blow a really good bonus or a good windfall, there was just another thread the other month about this. Understand delayed gratification and understand not letting people know. Operate strictly business-oriented and don't forget what got you here, and make sure you continue it. 

If REI ends up being your pursuit, I'd do something similar that @Cody L mentioned and that I mentioned in the NFL player thread but more SFH oriented. 60% towards 20-40% LTV properties that are undervalued(less than median price) in a growing city(by characteristics, trends, industries). Prefer 3-4 cities and just go deeper, not wider. 30% into debt notes(sub 5 year tenure), 10% in to rolling 4-8 week tbills. Re assess every year and how to move properly to continue to make money and keep yourself lined up with good hard assets.


 Good advice on diversification.

Post: $5.3M to use but 0 experience. Advice...?

Alton P.Posted
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Quote from @Peter W.:

Buy one either where you live or frequently visit at 20-25% down and wait a year or two and see if the headaches are worth it before figuring out your next steps. Congratulations on you success so far.


 Good advice, step by step