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All Forum Posts by: Austin Tondreau

Austin Tondreau has started 2 posts and replied 15 times.

Post: Noob from Chicago Suburbs

Austin TondreauPosted
  • Downers Grove, IL
  • Posts 15
  • Votes 3
Originally posted by @John Warren:

@Austin Tondreau the single worst mistake my wife and I made was to pay off our student loans. The interest rate was less than 7% on even the worst one, and we could have bought properties in Berwyn and Forest Park that have literally doubled in value. Rents also went up to almost double what they were when we were paying off our debt (2010-2011). I would look at it mathematically and decide if you can get a better return on your money buying rentals or paying off debt (hint... rentals). 

Flipping condos is not as easy as it sounds either. The margins are very low, so you will have to do all the work yourself. You could potentially do a lot better in rentals in my opinion. 

 I do completely understand where you’re coming from regarding the interest rate. Currently all of mine are below 7%, but my private student loans ($65,000 worth) have a variable interest rate, which concerns me. I know I am an idiot for picking that when I refinanced them. I have looked into refinancing again but all options where over 7% and my monthly payment increased as well. My reasoning for wanting to pay them off faster was to relieving my debt-in-income ratio, along with freeing up the $1000 a month payment that goes to them. Plus I figured it would continue to become more difficult getting financing from banks with the more debt I add (Student loans/ multiple mortgages). I am fortunate enough to have a company vehicle so no car payment.

Having this exact same issue, very frustrating. 

Post: Noob from Chicago Suburbs

Austin TondreauPosted
  • Downers Grove, IL
  • Posts 15
  • Votes 3

Hello Everyone! 

I am Austin, currently living in Naperville, IL. Currently working as a Product Manager/ Sales Engineer for a Heavy Duty Manufacturing Company out LA. I get to travel for work, and really enjoy my job. A few co-works of mine have rental properties and finally convinced me to get into the real estate business last fall. The overall goal is to provide passive income, to provide to my parents who will be retiring soon.. and then myself in the future. 

I am currently working on my business plan (about half way through it). My overall goal is to slowly start acquiring properties, rehabbing them, refinancing, and then finally renting them (similar to the BRRRR method, but I am living in them). The areas I am looking around is Chicago Suburbs/ Grand Rapids, MI/ Traverse City, MI (I am from Michigan). That being said, I am currently around $80,000 in student debt (worth it). So I believe the best thing I can do is pay off my student debt before really pursuing rental properties, as it frees up my debt-to-income ratio and frees up my expenses. To help pay off these loans faster, I recently have been looking into rehabbing and selling condos.

From my limited experience, condo's are often cheaper than houses, so barriers to entry are less. They're also typically less square footage, making it easier to rehab and less time consuming than a single family home. The Chicago-Land market is incredibly high right now, properties that need to be completely torn down are attempting to be sold for $200K+. Thought process is to purchase a condo for $70-80k, put around $10-$15k into rehab costs and then selling it for a profit of $5,000-$10,000 (ideally selling it for slightly less than other listed properties in the area). I am handy so the costs might be slightly lower. The downside to condo's would be less profit, and most likely longer lead time on selling the units. I don't believe they sell as fast as single family homes. Anyone have any other thoughts regarding this? 

My current Residence: 
Purchased my condo last September, and almost immediately starting rehabbing it. I will admit I didn't know what I was doing most of the time when I started projects, but I am fortunate enough to have help from my parents (and the internet). Over the past 10 months I have learned a ton, and its been a fun experience. 
Purchase Price: $160,000 ($152,000 after down payment) 
Renovation Costs: $8500 - $9000
Total capital invested: $17,000 (Renovations + Down payment)
Expected appraisal: $175,000 - $180,000 (Based off comps.)

Depending on what I rent the unit out for, It will take me around 7.15 - 10.65 years to regain the capital I have invested into the property (providing nothing breaks... luckily everything in the condo has been replaced within the past year). I have been going back and forth on a property management company as Im still new to this, and travel a lot for work.... That may cut into profits and add onto to my "years to regain capital invested" . Looking at the numbers I believe I used a little bit too much of my own money/ over improved the property. As the years to regain capital (7-10 years) seems slight high to me. Any recommendations/ Thoughts? 

(I gave up on attempting to post Before/ After pictures. Couldn't get anything to load) 

    I have been fortunate enough to not use the warranty, yet. But they guarantee LifeProof wont fade due to sunlight (Just looked over my warranty agreement). That being said, I have warrantied a few items from Home Depot, and never had any issues. 

    But overall it is a really solid product. I've dragged my fridge and stove across the flooring multiple times with zero marks. My dogs nails have never scratched it either. I have hosted a few parties, with things constantly being dropped (like a drinking glass), again zero stains and zero scratches. 

    I highly recommend luxury vinyl plank flooring. They're incredibly more durable than laminate. To test the durability I take a key to them, and attempt to scratch them. They do, however, look a bit "cheaper" but shop around and find your favorite. I'm more partial to Lifeproof from Home Depot. They have a lifetime residential warranty.
    While installation is easy, if you have to replace a damaged plank, I have always been under the impression you will have to unlock all the pieces (because they all click lock into each other). Removing the damaged plank wouldn't be all that difficult but installing a new one would be challenging without causing further damage. 
    Nevertheless, I agree with everything Peter said above. I have it installed in my entry way, kitchen, and utility room and have never had an issue with water intrusion, nor with sun damage (kitchen flooring always has sun shining on it). That being said, I personally wouldn't install in a bathroom.