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All Forum Posts by: Jim McMillen

Jim McMillen has started 6 posts and replied 20 times.

Post: What are Colleagues used for in the forum?

Jim McMillenPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Columbus, OH
  • Posts 20
  • Votes 8

There is a lot of useful info in this forum. But I do have a few questions I'm hoping someone can answer:

1: What is the colleagues section used for? Just trying to figure out the purpose of "inviting" a colleague.

2: Is there a way to see if you have a personal message from someone once you log into this site? For instance on some other forums I belong to, once you log in a box jumps out at you saying you have a pm. I've sent a few pm's to people on this site and I don't know if they know they are there or not.

Thank you.

Jim

Post: 50% rule

Jim McMillenPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Columbus, OH
  • Posts 20
  • Votes 8

Hey Mike,

What part of Ohio do you live in? Do you know if properties exist in Columbus that can be bought using the 2% rule?

Thank you.

Jim

Post: Signing in to the forum issue....

Jim McMillenPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Columbus, OH
  • Posts 20
  • Votes 8

Sorry to be posting in this area, but for some reason I'm not authorized to post in the correct forum....

Anyway, my question is, each day I sign into the forum, I always click on the radio button to sign me in each time I access the site but for some reason it is not working for me. I don't know if I need to do something with my computer or if that feature is not working.

Thank you.

Jim

Post: can you help with this scenario........

Jim McMillenPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Columbus, OH
  • Posts 20
  • Votes 8

I love this website. Open and honest feedback. Thank you for the reply.

In the example of a $30,000 purchase based upon $600 in rent, when it comes to the 2% rule, I’m guessing you don’t look at any down payment you make on the house, correct? On an extreme example, if I were to pay cash for the entire property of $46,000 with $600 rental income, I would definitely cash flow, but it may not be the best use of my money.

Mike it looks like you live in Ohio. What part do you live in? Do you know if it is hard or impossible to find properties that have $100 cash flow per month in Columbus?

Thanks again for your help.

Jim

Post: can you help with this scenario........

Jim McMillenPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Columbus, OH
  • Posts 20
  • Votes 8
Originally posted by "MikeOH":
I certainly wouldn't do the deal for only $25 per month positive cash flow!

Good Luck,

Mike

Mike,

Did I figure my cash flow correctly at $25 per month? Also I think I read in another post that someone mentioned the line should be drawn at $100 positive cash flow....Would you agree with that?

In order for a deal like this to be made a few things are going to have to happen....Either the price of the house has to go down, or my down payment would go up. Obviously I can't increase my rent as the market dictates that.

Would you have any ideas on how make this work or should I just move on to something else?

If I'm doing my math correctly, if I talked them down from $46,000 to $43,000 and put 20% down that would make my mortgage be $34,400 or $229 per month. With that said I'm calculating my cash flow to be $71. What do you think of that or again is this something that may not be workable.

Thank you.

Jim

Post: can you help with this scenario........

Jim McMillenPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Columbus, OH
  • Posts 20
  • Votes 8

What do you think of this hypothetical deal. Would it be good?

Purchase price $46,000
Down Pymt: 4,600
Mortgage: $41,400

Principal/Interest payment: $275 (30 yrs at 7%)

Gross Rent: $600
Operating Expense: $300
NOI: $300

Cash Flow: $25 per month ($300-$275)

The property has a monthly tax of $55 and I’m guessing that insurance would be $25 per month. If I add up Princ/Int payment of $275 plus taxes at $55 and insurance at $25, the total payment would be $355. I would bring in $600 per month thus leaving $245 for expenses.

Maybe I’m not reading some prior posts correctly, but in applying the 50% rule, I don’t know if I look at just Princ and Int or the whole mortgage payment which would include taxes and insurance.

Also, I don’t know if I’m figuring my “cash flow” correctly since I’m not taking into consideration the taxes and insurance in the calculation.

I appreciate any input with this scenario.

Thank you.

Jim

Post: 50% rule

Jim McMillenPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Columbus, OH
  • Posts 20
  • Votes 8
Originally posted by "MikeOH":
Jeff,

The 50% rule is nothing more than the fact that throughout the United States, operating expenses run 45% to 50% of the gross rents for rental properties. Operating expenses include all the expenses that are associated with operating your rental business, but DO NOT include the mortgage payment (Principal and Interest). Operating expenses include (but are not limited to): taxes, insurance, management, maintenance, entity maintenance, advertising, utilities (at least during vacancies), legal fees, damage done by tenants (over the security deposit), vacancies, setouts, lawsuits, and capital expenses (not technically an operating expense).

There is no 2.5% rule. The 2% rule is simply a screening tool that says that you need the monthly gross rents to be about 2% of the acquisition cost of a rental (purchase price + rehab). Very simple math will tell you that if the monthly gross rents are not about 2% of the acquisition cost, the property will not cash flow properly.

Good Luck,

Mike

Mike,

I thought Columbus was potentially a good rental market but after looking at these 2 screening rules, I’m beginning to wonder. For example, here is a typical house that can be found:

Purchase price: $46,000
Gross rent/month: $600 (1.3% of purchase price – way below 2%)
Operating expense: $300
NOI: $300
Mortgage pymt: $306 ($46k, 30 yr., 7%), doesn’t include $82/month for taxes/insurance.
Cash flow: ($6.00)

Under this scenario, I’m guessing this would NOT be a good purchase. Any opinion with this “purchase”

Just so I understand the operating expenses, cash flow etc.

Operating expense= 50% or rent

Using my example above, the $82/month for taxes and insurance would come out of the operating expense bucket of money, thus this would leave me $218/month ($300 minus $82 = $218) to go towards expenses such as new roof, vacancy, marketing etc.

Cash flow =

Rent: $600
minus Operating Expense: ($300)
equal NOI: $300

NOI: $300
minus Mortgage pymt (principal/interest only) ($306)
equals: Cash flow ($6)

Am I viewing cash flow and operating expenses correctly? Thanks again for all your help!

Jim

Post: 50% rule

Jim McMillenPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Columbus, OH
  • Posts 20
  • Votes 8
Originally posted by "TimWieneke":
With REOs the way they are, I've been applying the 4-5% rule. :mrgreen:

Tim,

When you are applying the 4-5% rule on REO's, is that based upon purchase price alone? I'm assuming with an REO you will have some pretty hefty rehab costs associated with it. Thank you!

Jim

Post: 50% rule

Jim McMillenPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Columbus, OH
  • Posts 20
  • Votes 8

noob here.....Can someone explain the 50% rule, 2.5% rule.....I can't seem to find a definition for it.

Thanks.

Jim

Post: Hello from Columbus....

Jim McMillenPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Columbus, OH
  • Posts 20
  • Votes 8

Hello all,

My name is Jim.... I don't have any properties right now, just learning. This is a great website and I hope to learn a lot from everyone!!

Jim