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All Forum Posts by: Alex Petsopoulos

Alex Petsopoulos has started 4 posts and replied 27 times.

Post: First Deal/House Hack in Northern VA

Alex PetsopoulosPosted
  • Investor
  • Alexandria, VA
  • Posts 27
  • Votes 16
Quote from @Benjamin Otey:

Alex,

Thank you so much for your post! I am currently in the early stages of doing what you and your fiancé did and its great to see a couple who actually made it work! This will be my first investment property and I really appreciate how you broke down the deal for us. If you don't mind me asking, what was the most difficult part of this deal and how did you overcome it?  


Hey Ben, of course! Way to take action, and best of luck. For us, the most difficult part of the deal was filling our vacancies and completing our renovations as quickly as possible right after closing. If we were smarter, we would have listed our rooms for rent and conducted tenant screening while we were still under contract. Then, we could have had leases signed and rent checks coming in from day 1. We overcame this by sacrificing most of our personal time, exercise, and sleep for the entire month of September. Instead, we messaged rental applicants and worked with contractors until the renovations were done and the leases were signed. Wish I had a better answer for you!

Post: First Deal/House Hack in Northern VA

Alex PetsopoulosPosted
  • Investor
  • Alexandria, VA
  • Posts 27
  • Votes 16
Quote from @Jason Nguyen:

Congrats on y’all first move!! House hacking is always the way to go right after college. I introduced house hacking to pretty much all of my clients and they’re living mortgage free. We usually target a townhouse with 4 bedrooms and a basement that can be turned into an in-law suite. Depends on the area, but most areas in the Fairfax county can be rented for much higher than the surrounding counties. Master bedroom can be rented for $1000-$1200, two small bedrooms that share the same bath can be rented for $800/each, the basement in-law suite can be rented for up to $1600-$1800. The owner lives in one of the room and manage all the tenants.  

Thank you!! Oh yeah, it really is a great way to get started after graduating. Rent by the room and in-law suites have been working great for us, no complaints yet!

Post: First Deal/House Hack in Northern VA

Alex PetsopoulosPosted
  • Investor
  • Alexandria, VA
  • Posts 27
  • Votes 16

Hey BP! My fiance, Genevieve, and I just completed our very first deal, a house hack in Northern VA. We're both 22, and we graduated from Virginia Tech in May- Go Hokies!! We'd love to share some of the numbers and details about our house hack, with the hopes of inspiring other folks looking to get started in real estate. We certainly are not experts, as this is our first deal, but we are happy to provide any help we can!

Before we get going, a huge thank you to @Daniel Amsalem and his wife for mentoring us through this process. The format of this post is stolen shamelessly from them.

Investment Info: 3bed/3bath townhouse in Northern Virginia, three levels. We walled off the dining room into our bedroom, turning our little home into a 4bed/3bath!

Upstairs: 2 bedrooms and a full bathroom

Main Level: Kitchen, living room, 1 bedroom, and 1 full bathroom

Basement: Walkout with 1 bedroom, living room, 1 full bath, kitchenette, and washer/dryer

Purchase price: $574,900

Cash invested: $32,000 = $17,000 Downpayment + $3,000 Closing Costs + $12,000 Renovations/Furnishings

What made you interested in investing in this type of deal?

Poverty. My fiance and I just graduated college, and we had no desire to fork over a huge chunk of our income as rent. We lived like monks throughout school, eating rice and beans, riding our bicycles in the rain to class, traveling/sleeping in our Honda CRV for vacations, and working internships during the breaks to save for our downpayment. I must have listened to 100 BiggerPockets podcasts throughout my last two years of school, and I read the House Hacking Strategy by @Craig Curelop. Following Brandon Turner's advice, Genevieve and I analyzed deals on Zillow daily for about a year and a half before we started putting in offers, with lots of helpful advice from @Joaquin Camarasa.

How did you find this deal and how did you negotiate it?

Our agent, @Russell Brazil found the deal on the MLS. Negotiations were strange for this property. We submitted an offer at the asking price, and the sellers sat on it for four days. Then, they emailed Russell asking him to raise our offer. Obviously, we weren't going to bid against ourselves (they had no other offers). So we pulled our offer and started looking at other properties. However, they emailed us a few days later asking us to resubmit our offer, saying they would accept it. We did, but this time with a 3% seller subsidy for our closing costs. They negotiated that down to 1.5%, and we got under contract with a better offer than we originally had sent them!

How did you finance this deal?

We put 3% down and went with a conventional loan to secure a better rate (5.5%), shoutout to @Upen Patel at the Federal Savings Bank for coaching us through the lending process.

How did you add value to the deal?

We walled off the upstairs living room into our bedroom and added a closet. Then, Genevieve furnished the basement while I listed it on AirBnB. We have been using the MTR strategy (Medium Term Rentals) to comply with the 30-night minimum stay laws in our county, and right now, we are booked out until June!

What was the outcome?

We've been living here since the end of August and our "rent" (including our part of the mortgage, capex, expenses, and vacancy) is under $1000/month. When you factor in loan paydown and appreciation, our "net" housing cost comes down to essentially $0 for the year. When we move out, our conservative estimates have the property cash flowing over $200/month after all expenses, an 8% Cash on Cash Return!

Lessons learned? Challenges?

We considered buying a smaller, less expensive property for sale just up the road for a lower-risk investment. But, Russell showed us how it made sense to spend a little more to get a lot more space in our current property. Because of that decision, we own the largest house in our neighborhood, and bring in an extra $1000/month in rent! 

Also, we learned the value of connecting with people who are doing exactly what you want to do. When you find someone who already is where you want to be, suddenly, your crazy ideas don't seem all that crazy! We got a lot of pushback from friends/family when we told them what we wanted to do by house hacking. While we know our friends and family absolutely had our best interests at heart, sometimes you have to ignore conventional wisdom if you want to get unconventional results.

Please feel free to message me if you have any questions. As I said, we are new to this game, but we are happy to help anyone just getting started in any way we can!

Post: Old Town Alexandria House Hacking (near Washington D.C.)

Alex PetsopoulosPosted
  • Investor
  • Alexandria, VA
  • Posts 27
  • Votes 16
Quote from @Mike Webber:

@Alex Petsopoulos

Fee Simple is an ownership style that just means you actually own the land and structure that is on it. My point was that you wanna avoid condo associations at all costs haha. So owning a townhouse vs a "townhouse style" condo, will make your life way easier in this pursuit. 

I'd be happy to shoot you what the numbers look like (I'll send you a DM). You are right about a 3% down payment cash flowing. In one case I had a VA buyer with 0% down (actually walked away with money at closing) that still manages to look appealing. The City of Alexandria is the most forward thinking jurisdiction in NOVA when it comes to using your property to make money, another reason I love it.

That makes me happy to hear you are keeping the one in Huntington. I couldn't agree more, rents will rise. Property values will rise. I think that neighborhood is gonna crush it over the next couple decades. 

Keep it up bro, you're crushing it. 

Thank you so much for the advice, Mike! Okay, we will try and target a townhome instead. Looking forward to hearing more from you, I like to hear that the city of Alexandria is favorable to STRs. Thank you!! 

Post: Old Town Alexandria House Hacking (near Washington D.C.)

Alex PetsopoulosPosted
  • Investor
  • Alexandria, VA
  • Posts 27
  • Votes 16

@Russell Brazil, yeah, I would definitely look into the STR policy for each condo association before buying. Perhaps I'll need to find a new strategy.

@Nicole Masters, I am definitely wary of HOA bylaws, and, their ability to change bylaws in the future to restrict STRs. Russell actually just helped me close on a deal I've been meaning to do a write-up on, and he was super helpful! Foggy Bottom is indeed a goofy name for a neighborhood, maybe L'Enfant also had a hand in naming Dumfries, VA :P

@Mike Webber, that's reassuring to hear- it is possible! My fiance and I have no desire to intentionally break condo rules, that sounds like a massive headache. What does "Fee Simple" mean? We'd definitely be open to doing an MTR in Old Town, our experience has been great in Huntington so far. I love Old Town as well! The walkability of Old Town, combined with its proximity to grocery stores, our church, and the Woodrow Wilson Bridge make it a very attractive place to live. Our biggest concern is obvious, prices are so high there cashflow seems nigh impossible with a 3% down loan. We absolutely plan to keep the Huntington house as a rental. The neighborhood is a hidden gem, and I am confident rents will continue to rise over time. If you wouldn't mind, I would love to see some analysis of your successful Old Town clients' deals! As an engineer, I am a numbers guy through and through. :)

Post: Old Town Alexandria House Hacking (near Washington D.C.)

Alex PetsopoulosPosted
  • Investor
  • Alexandria, VA
  • Posts 27
  • Votes 16

Hello!

Does anyone have experience with house hacking in Old Town Alexandria, VA, near Washington D.C.? My fiance and I are really enjoying our first house rack right now in the Huntington neighborhood, and next year, we'd like to move to Old Town. Price points are obviously super high on rowhomes, so, we thought living in a 1 bedroom condo and renting it out on Airbnb once we move out a year later might be a good strategy. We're also open to purchasing a rowhome with the potential to AirBnB the basement as its own unit. A live-in flip would be cool too. Is anyone making money in this area? Would love to connect with some Old Town Alexandria investors :)

Alex

Post: Furnished Finder Alexandria, VA

Alex PetsopoulosPosted
  • Investor
  • Alexandria, VA
  • Posts 27
  • Votes 16

Hello,

Does anyone have any experience using furnishedfinder.com or another travel nurse/MTR platform in the Huntington area near Alexandria, VA? What has your experience been like? I've heard the rents are higher for this method, but, I am wondering if it is an effective strategy for my location. Thanks!!

Alex

Post: New Investor Looking to Househack and Connect

Alex PetsopoulosPosted
  • Investor
  • Alexandria, VA
  • Posts 27
  • Votes 16

Hey Ricky, Charlottesville? I hope you're not a UVA man... GO HOKIES!!!! Just kidding, I hope your house hack goes well! I'm graduating from VT this summer and I'm hoping to house hack in the DMV as well :) Hoping we meet up at a REI meetup sometime this summer :)

Post: New Investor Looking to House Hack near Washington D.C.!

Alex PetsopoulosPosted
  • Investor
  • Alexandria, VA
  • Posts 27
  • Votes 16
Quote from @Daniel Amsalem:

Hey @Alex Petsopoulos, sounds like you're in a very similar position to my wife and I last year. We recently closed on a house-hack in Alexandria. I just wrote it up a few minutes ago here: https://www.biggerpockets.com/...

I'd be happy to share everything I know (not that much lol). We also have monthly meetups in Tyson's Mall on the first Thursday at 6:30pm.


 Hey Daniel, I read your article, your house hack sounds so cool!! That's totally what my fiance and I would love to do as well :) I would love to pick your brain! I'll send you a message outside this thread, and once I move back up to NOVA in August, I'll definitely check out the monthly meetups. Thanks so much for reaching out :)

Post: New Investor Looking to House Hack near Washington D.C.!

Alex PetsopoulosPosted
  • Investor
  • Alexandria, VA
  • Posts 27
  • Votes 16
Quote from @Ned Carey:

@Alex Petsopoulos first you are already talking to the right guy @Russell Brazil 

One thing to consider about Fort Washington is the traffic on Indian Head Highway will only continue to get worse as the area there continues to develop. Prince Georges county is the cheapest property available inside the Beltway. I believe long term that makes it a good prospect. 

I think I am! He seems super in the loop about investing in the DMV. Ugh, traffic is the worst. But, if it's a good long-term prospect I'll definitely keep looking into Fort Washington. Thanks for the info :)