@Shannon Oakley
I have to agree with @Joe Villeneuve on this one. Investors that have been doing this a long time don't bend to anyone. They have a criteria and they stick to it. Asking price is just a number. If you are asking for 50k and my numbers says that I can buy it for 100k then I'll go over that asking without a problem. I'm not going to tell you that. I'm not going to start my offer with over your asking price either unless I already knew somebody else offered over you asking. That's not bending it's having a criteria. Same goes for the other way if your asking is at 100k and my numbers say 50k I'm going to offer you 50k. I'm not going to stray away from criteria just because you or the seller thinks its' worth more. If you bend you cause yourself to lose money because you didn't stick to what you know to be true, which is the numbers.
Every investor has a different formula they use to determine what they can pay. Every person is charged different for materials and different for labor. Yes, it's around the same price, but some people get discounts some buy it at cheaper stores and some do it themselves so they save money on labor. Some get cheaper hard money, some get cheaper private money and some use their own money. So when running numbers and using formulas its inevitable that some people are able to pay more than others. Like Joe said it all depends on where investors are at in that specific moment because they are changing with the market and with the pricing of labor/materials/homes. So to group all REI into one group saying that they all need to change is a huge assumption and very inaccurate.
If people aren't buying deals right now it's because it's not a good deal. If you sent me a good deal no matter what area it's in I can find someone to buy it, If I don't buy it myself first. If the opportunity is there to make 30k+ on a good deal trust me people are buying it. Now if you have a deal that need 300k in with PP+Rehab then expect a person to be happy with a 10k profit theres too much risk for not enough reward.
Sellers control the market because theres not enough inventory which is why investors are offering over what they were last year and the year before that because there's less inventory than last year and the year before. So if there 11,000 people looking and only 3,000 houses it only make sense that those 3,000 house would sell for a little more than they would under normal circumstances (sellers market currently). The same works the other way, if there was 15,000 houses with 5,000 people looking then houses would sell for less then they would under normal circumstances (buyers market (2008)). The market will eventually flip, but we've been in a sellers market for a couple of years and it's not flipping right now. This has been the real estate cycle of buyers and seller markets for as long as real estate has been a thing. Investors have been changing and adapting since before we were born and will continue to do it long after we are gone.
To me it sounds like one of two things are the problem. One you are working with new investors who still don't know how everything operates yet. They don't have a system in place to succeed. Therefore many things are going to go wrong from their emotions getting in the way to them not knowing what they are doing fully. Or two, the deals you are securing aren't deals and you need to learn what is and is not a good deal. Maybe that's with rehab numbers or your ARV or maybe it's your ability to negotiate the seller down to where you know it's a deal then YOU BEND and expect the investor to bend just like you did. Self evaluate. Maybe its not everybody else. Maybe it's you.
This is all an outside perspective because I don't fully know your situation and I'm not there to access. But this is what it sounds like to me. I'm just trying to solve the problem your having so you can be more successful. Not argue over a post. So if you want the advice take it. If not I'll be on my way.
Lastly, don't get upset and argue over posts. It's a friendly forum where we all come to educate people and learn from one another. Joe wasn't rude by answering all of your questions. You posted it, he quoted it, then he answered it. Nothing wrong with that. He gave you the answers that you asked for. Don't get upset because it's not the answer that you wanted to hear.