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All Forum Posts by: Alex Clark

Alex Clark has started 18 posts and replied 32 times.

Hey BP fam, I'm looking at buying a rental in Cleveland, Ohio. I have a property I'm looking at and am looking to see if someone can tell me a bit about the area. Also if you would like to share which area you've boughten in? I appreciate the responses!

Quote from @Travis Biziorek:

There are plenty of places you can buy cheap real estate.

But most of those places aren't going to be ones you want to buy.

My pick for still cheap and worth buying is Detroit. But I have 12-doors there and I'm biased. The city is coming back in a big way but do your own research and decide if it's right for you or not.

Happy to shoot some resources over if you'd like.


 Hey Travis can I get in contact with you? I've been looking at detroit

Hey BP, i'm based out of Fresno, California and it seems impossible to find any propertys in which will cashflow. I'm new to real estate investing and I've used BP Calculators and have seen over a long enough time span yes I will cash flow. Is this normal? Does anyone go in on a deal losing for the first few years?

Quote from @Leo R.:

@Alex Clark I have experience with both, and I'd 100% recommend a house hack over OOS investing for a beginner, no question.  I've written about this on the forums plenty of times, so here's one of those posts:

I've house hacked, BRRRR'd, rehabbed, and been involved in just about every other REI strategy out there, and in my opinion, house hacking (a single fam or small multifam) is the single best way to get started in real estate investing.

Why? Because, house hacking can produce great returns, it’s highly flexible, it teaches you essential RE investing skills, but (compared to more advanced strategies like BRRR'ing, flipping, wholesaling, or out of state investing), it is comparatively lower risk, simpler and more beginner-friendly—and therefore has a higher likelihood of success.

Here are the top reasons house hacking is the best way to get started in REI:

1. A HH can produce great financial returns. Specifically, a HH can substantially lower your living expenses, while increasing your income. Lowering your expenses while increasing income is the fundamental recipe for building wealth—and a HH can accomplish both in a single step! A HH lowers living expenses (which is usually a person’s biggest expense)—living in the smallest room in your own house might only cost you $500 per month, whereas renting an apartment might cost $1,000-2,000+ per month (not to mention the $500/mo you spend to live in your own house is partially paying off your mortgage, whereas the money you spend on rent is gone forever). A HH also produces income and adds to your net worth—you can get cashflow from rent, property appreciation, mortgage pay down, and tax benefits. Since it’s your primary residence, you also get access to one of the greatest wealth-building tools ever created: a 30 year, fixed low interest, low downpayment mortgage. When executed correctly and repeatedly, house hacking can be very lucrative, and there are multi-millionaires who built their fortunes on repetitive house hacking!

2. House hacking is highly adaptable, and can be combined with other strategies. As you gain experience, you can combine a HH with other strategies to maximize returns—I've done HH's that turned into various types of value-add plays, BRRRR's, STRs, flips, etc. Often, this is done to adapt to market changes. For instance, I have a property that started as a HH; when rates increased, re-fi'ing wasn't an option, but the property had a layout and zoning that was conducive to adding an ADU—which I did, greatly improving the property's cashflow. Nobody can predict the market, but good investors know how to adapt to whatever the market throws at them, and HH’ing is a strategy that is highly adaptable.

3. A house hack will teach you the essential skills you'll need to succeed in RE investing. With a HH, you learn how to analyze properties & markets, how to find an investor-friendly agent, how to spot value-add opportunities at properties, how to engage in a strong due diligence process, how to screen tenants, how to create a strong lease, how to manage the property, how to build a network of contractors, plumbers, electricians and other pros, how to manage the book keeping of the property, etc., etc., etc. If you want to succeed in RE investing, getting this experience will be critical! There are some lessons that can only be learned through experience, and A HH will provide incredibly valuable lessons that no mentor, real estate course, book or podcast could ever teach (though, I'd still recommend reading up on relevant RE resources, listening to podcasts, etc.).

Moreover, a HH allows you to learn these lessons in a context that is often lower-risk than more advanced strategies (like out of state investing, flipping, etc.). Make a mistake with a house hack and you might experience some inconveniences and lose a few thousand bucks, but you can usually survive. Make a mistake with a flip or out of state investment, and you can easily go bankrupt (especially when you’re first starting).

Plus, if you decide to do one of the other strategies in the future (such as BRRR'ing or out-of-state investing, etc.), you'll be much more prepared to do it if you have a few HH's under your belt--a ton of the lessons you'll learn from a HH can be used to succeed in other areas of real estate ...in fact, I'd say that a HH should be a necessary prerequisite to the more advanced strategies (like out of state investing, BRRRR'ing, flipping, etc.)!

4. Compared to other strategies (like out of state investing, flipping, wholesaling, etc.), a HH is ** relatively ** simple and ** relatively ** lower-risk, and therefore has a higher chance of success. I always use this analogy: would you tell a beginner skier to ski the most advanced terrain on the mountain? (obviously, no; a beginner could get themselves killed on double black diamond terrain!). Beginners should start off on beginner terrain, where they actually have a chance to learn and succeed. A house hack is like that beginner run—you'll fall down a few times, and learn in the process (but you hopefully won't get yourself killed!) …on the other hand, flipping, BRRR'ing, wholesaling, and out-of-state investing are more like double black diamonds—they require a lot of experience, and a single mistake could have dire consequences.

The fact of the matter is: real estate is a high-stakes endeavor, and the more advanced strategies (like BRRR'ing, wholesaling, flipping, out of state investing, etc.) can easily bankrupt a beginner when they're executed poorly.

Although HH’ing is a strategy that's good for beginners, it’s not just for beginners—there are plenty of very experienced RE investors worth many millions who continue to HH, because it's such a powerful strategy.

Now, having said all that, house hacking is not necessarily easy, and it’s definitely not risk-free (if it were, everyone would do it!)...it's just easier and comparatively less risky than the more advanced strategies...House hacking still takes significant due diligence, skill in analyzing the market and the property, time and effort to learn about tenant screening and property management, the ability to anticipate appreciation/depreciation trends, etc., etc., etc....and even with lots of skill and preparation, things will still go wrong (vacancy, plumbing leaks, bad tenants, unanticipated capex, furnaces that kick the bucket at the absolute worst time, etc.)--but that's the nature of the game. As James Brown sang: you gotta pay the cost to be the boss.

Good luck out there!

@Leo R This feedback was awesome thank you so much my friend. I appreicate your response, this will give me something to think about!

@Leo R This feedback was awesome thank you so much my friend. I appreicate your response, this will give me something to think about!

Looking to buy a property in Ohio

Quote from @Carl Millsap:

@Alex Clark the fear is understandable. There is a lot that goes into this business. I'm not sure what level you plan to invest at or where but think about this. 

If you have 10 single family houses in a town with 5,000 people do you think you can find 10 people / families to rent. a house?

The key is to know your numbers, plan for worst case scenario. 

If the place is vacant can you pay the mortgage yourself? 

Are you disciplined enough to put the profit away so you can handle renovations, repairs, etc.?

For the most part everyone needs a place to stay. Look at realtor.com, Zillow etc to see what rents are for properties similar to what you want to buy. 

Don't let the fear (False Evidence Appearing Real) keep you from pursuing this business.

Hope that helps

I love that man, thats what I needed to hear. You got that line from jonny wu in pain and gain? 

My biggest fear with real estate investing is what if I can't find tenats? Is there something that tracks rent in that area, to see if it is in demand?

Quote from @Bradley Buxton:

@Alex Clark

It's great you're thinking of using Real Estate to build wealth. I was much older when I started my journey. I'm a CA native who moved to Northern Nevada (Lake Tahoe) almost 4 years ago. It's a great place to house hack. Reno, NV, Carson City, and the area have some (relatively) affordable places to get started under 400k to house hack. All the benefits of living near CA but no state income tax. Low property taxes, and landlord-friendly. Tech companies like Tesla, Apple, Switch, etc are moving to the area and bringing high-paying jobs. I like the aspect of still being a short drive or flight away from family but all the benefits of being out of CA.


 Awesome thx for the response, glad you like Lahoe beautiful place to be. 

Looking to buy out of state how do I know where to go?