Quote from @Ty Canal:
@Alan Asriants can't say you're wrong here - original post may become misleading. I've found massive success in these class C/D areas. One thing I will say is if you want this to be successful you need to scale at large, owning 2-4 you have a much higher chance at getting burned.
I'm not sure where you're going with the courses, I'll never spend money on something I can learn myself, we live in a new age where everything you need is at your fingertips.
I believe it's all about personality, when I first got into this all I wanted was to achieve financial freedom (no 9-5) and it got me there. C/D neighborhoods are great for replacing an income but it won't build you that net worth compared to A/B investing.
Not sure where credit is relevant in this situation, 90% of my tenants have good credit. It's just an added bonus of security for me even though in reality if most of them never pay their share the business will still operate fine.
you make good points - nothing I can really dispute, I think your original post may be misleading, it's coming across as something that's not achievable - when it should come across as A/B is better in the long term.
By no means do i think that you can't generate "success"
I'm very sure you could churn out good returns. But operating in these classes in not really investing its more like starting up a business. Businesses provide great cash flow but are always tough to sell and usually valuations are low. Meaning most dont sell, they just retire.
The concept is similar here. Yes you get more cash flow, but you're usually investing way more of your time. My understanding of investment and passive income is to create a model that allows you to invest your money into a safe asset, that generates some kind of income, with little to no effort and it grows in great value overtime.
This is what investing is about. Your money works for you, not you working for money.
Sure, you need to make sure your property is in great shape, you find the right tenants, etc.
I have managed 20+ units in Class A/B areas and 20+ units in Class C/D areas and I have spent more time on the Class C/D area properties in 3 days than I did on the Class A/B areas in one month.
Usually calls related to class A/B were once in a while: water heater replacement, minor water leaks after very heavy rain storm, only really "emergency" situations.
For the other class of RE, it was chasing down rent, arguing about who is responsible for throwing down things into a toilet that shouldn't be there, water bill delinquencies, disputing damages that were clearly tenants fault etc. And low and behold after some time, the owners stopped caring about fixing things because all of these issues screwed up their returns. Then things start to spiral downhill. Deferred maintenance, angry phone calls, and so on. Trust me, if I was the owner, I wouldnt want to keep fixing a problem that wasn't mine. And "duct tape" fixing like Lucas mentions don't last long and eat your cash flow.
So its not that you can't have success its that you put yourself in a different position. One is starting up a tough business and the other is investing. most people don't keep that business model open for long. As you can see Mark is repositioning.
My business is real estate sales, I invest in real estate.
credit is def relevant... avg scores in lower tier areas will be lower, that is just a fact.