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All Forum Posts by: Arlen Chou

Arlen Chou has started 14 posts and replied 916 times.

Post: Rehab/Fip

Arlen ChouPosted
  • Investor
  • Los Altos, CA
  • Posts 942
  • Votes 1,708

@Dele Ola I would do the best exterior inspection I could looking for structural issues. From the picture I think they exist... I would the make the worst case assumptions on the interior and add the two cost to figure a potential renovation cost. I don't know what the construction costs are in your area so it would be hard for me to be anymore specific then that.

Good luck and let us know your final decision,

Arlen

Post: new member from Oakland, CA

Arlen ChouPosted
  • Investor
  • Los Altos, CA
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Hello @Jessica Skupien,

There are deals to be found in the BA, you just need to put in the leg work to find them and also be creative. I have only been on BP for a short time, but there is a ton of great info and even more support from members!  You and your husband have the right idea in starting off with something you can live in and also generate cash.  Oakland has been on my radar for years, but only after joining BP and meeting people like @J.martin did I really jump into that area. Don't give up on your own backyard. If a guy like me from the South Bay can find a deal in Oakland, I am sure that you will have luck in finding something.

Good luck and hope to meet you at one of the meet ups in 2015.

-Arlen

Post: 1% with seller financing and no rent control in the Bay Area!!!

Arlen ChouPosted
  • Investor
  • Los Altos, CA
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At the time we went under contract, I had a lot of things going on besides this deal. I did not have time to go through the standard loan process and take care of my other obligations. Therefore, I went with the seller financing to lock the deal and also give myself some time to get financing in place.  It was a little risky, but in the end they went with financing and I get a year to shop the loan around.

Post: 1% with seller financing and no rent control in the Bay Area!!!

Arlen ChouPosted
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  • Los Altos, CA
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@Amit M. this part is pretty simple.  The seller financing is for 1 year at 4% interest with no prepayment penalty. 

Post: 1% with seller financing and no rent control in the Bay Area!!!

Arlen ChouPosted
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  • Los Altos, CA
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@Amit M. the CCR's are already in place. The interior of the units have not been touched in many decades. The only real upgrade has been the double pane windows. I plan to do a full job on the units: new kitchen cabinets, granite counter tops, new appliances, new tile and laminate flooring, new bathroom vanity, new toilet, new interior doors and paint.

I am heavily considering instant water heaters to free up space and I am thinking of converting the bath tubs to large showers with frame-less glass walls.  I believe that both of these items will make the space feel bigger and more comfortable.

-Arlen

Post: Thieves....How to stop them!

Arlen ChouPosted
  • Investor
  • Los Altos, CA
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@Nik S.This is petty robbery so who ever is doing this is not going to spend much time trying to get your money.  I would suggest just bolting or welding a hasp across the front of the key area and locking that with a pad lock.  With the hasp across the front they won't be able to get their key into the lock. This will deter them and hopefully they will just move on to easier pickings.  When you need to get in, just unlock the hasp, hing it open so you can insert your key and get your money.  Think of it as a chastity belt for your coin box.

A camera is great if you have the time to react. But unless you actually can tell who the person is in the video the cops will not do anything about this crime.

Good luck and let us know what works for you!

-Arlen

Post: 1% with seller financing and no rent control in the Bay Area!!!

Arlen ChouPosted
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  • Los Altos, CA
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@Amit M.the building has had some work done on it but there is much that should be done.  The electrical is one of the first things that I need to attack.  I am just worried about fire, so I will bite the bullet on this one. The plumbing has had some copper upgrades over the years, but it still has lots of galvanized pipping.  It is functional but will need to be addressed in the near future.  I plan to go with PEX and also go with instant on water heaters installed on the outside of the units. This will resolve a a potential safety issue and also free up some much need square footage.  The windows were all upgraded to double pane at some point, and the heaters in the units appear to be less than10 years old.

Yes, the building will effectively be 5 studio units to maximize rental potential.

I don't know what the details of the small loan issues were as it was not something that I was personally looking into... It was just what the seller and his agent told me. Even if this was not correct, it helped me to negotiate the price I needed so I just let the issue quietly fade away.

As for rents, I am targeting $1250 per month. Additionally, I plan to rent out each garage space for $150 per month.

@Brandon Turner Once escrow has closed and I start the renovation process I plan to post again so people can follow my pain/joy from renovation to fully rented units. 

Thank you everybody for the many words of encouragement!

-Arlen

Post: 1% with seller financing and no rent control in the Bay Area!!!

Arlen ChouPosted
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  • Los Altos, CA
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Troy Fisher I really wanted to get up to the SF meet up, but I just had too much stuff to do in the South Bay. I look forward to seeing you and J. Martin at the next meet up. -Arlen

Post: 1% with seller financing and no rent control in the Bay Area!!!

Arlen ChouPosted
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  • Los Altos, CA
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@Eric Z.  the property is in North Oakland toward Berkeley (NOBE), right off MLK and 55th St.

@George Lopez  thank you, nothing beats hustling and doing research.

Post: 1% with seller financing and no rent control in the Bay Area!!!

Arlen ChouPosted
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  • Los Altos, CA
  • Posts 942
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So to start off my first success story on BP I need to send a couple of key shout outs.  First I need to say thank you to Josh Dorkin and Brandon Turner of BP.  Without this community I would not have found this deal!  I also need to thank @Johnson H. for organizing the meet ups in San Jose.  Without those meet ups I would not have meet @J Martin, who got me excited about the Oakland market.  J graciously opened up his schedule on a few occasions to talk to me about Oakland and the various neighborhoods. Finally I need to send a big thank you to somebody that I have never met nor talked to, but was key in my strategy/success in getting this property @Michael Q (Michael Quarles).  I listened to pod cast 77 over 15 times in a row preparing for my eventual meeting with the owner of the property in question.  As recommended, I practiced several of the techniques on people in my circle of friends and I must say the Jedi mind control really does work!!!!  Michael if you read this and get to the Bay Area, I owe you a nice dinner and even nicer bottle of wine!

Now to the deal...  Over the Thanksgiving week, I went into contract on a building that WAS a 5 plex of studios that was LEGALLY converted to a 4 unit condominium complex.  The building is located in the north part of Oakland in an area called Santa Fe. The buildings is legally comprised of 3 studio condo's and a single 1 bedroom condo.  The one bedroom unit is actually 2 studio units with a pass through door in the shared wall.  It has 2 full kitchens and 2 full bathrooms.  As this was a conversion to condo's there are actually 6 electrical meters (1 master) and 5 gas and water meters.

At the rear of the property there are also 3 garages and a small storage closet.

The asking price was $252k for the 1 bedroom and $149k for each studio; total asking price was $699k. I found this deal sitting on the MLS. It has sat there for several months and intrigued me that this property did not sell for such a long period of time. After closer examination of the posted photos, I realized that there were 5 exterior doors, but the property was being marketed as 4 condominiums. I sensed that there was hidden value in the property and that there must have been a reason why the properties did not sell. These were literally the cheapest properties in this part of Oakland.

After speaking to the selling agent and the owner it became clear that financing of the entire building or even 1 of the condos was challenging and scaring off potential buyers. Basically, conventional lending does not work on this property for a single buyer as banks will not loan to a person if they own more that 50% of a HOA. Potentially a portfolio loan could be applied, but nobody had researched this potential solution. On the other side, the selling price of the condos were so low that many interested buyers could not get a loan on such a small amount. Therefore, the pool of potential buyers was narrowed down to people who could pay all cash, but were willing to live in a small studio. On top of this complexity, there was a HOA to deal with. Not too many people want to put the effort into keeping a small HOA viable.

Knowing that the seller was having a hard time finding a buyer for ALL 4 units, and the fact that we are into the traditionally slow season for real estate, I used techniques outlined by Michael in pod cast 77 to bring the seller down by $20k within the first 15 minutes of our meeting!  I subsequently let the seller talk his way down on his price and we eventually settled on $600k total with him financing nearly 50% of the deal at 4%!  

The units will be handed over to me fully vacant at the end of January.  The best part of the property is that as they are condominiums, they are EXEMPT from rent control!  I will soon own a little island of rent control free property in a rising neighborhood in Oakland.

Thanks again to BP, Johnson H, J Martin and Michael Quarles!

Who said there are no deals in the Bay Area???

-Arlen