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All Forum Posts by: Adrian Smude

Adrian Smude has started 67 posts and replied 991 times.

Post: I need help!!!

Adrian SmudePosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Plant City, FL
  • Posts 1,103
  • Votes 378
Quote from @Courtney Rodes:

I invest in mobile homes and teach the topic because not many people are. There’s less competition!  
I love the cash flow and that’s one of the first things that attracted me to mobile homes. They are also recession resistant. 
Are you talking about in a park or private land particularly? We have lots of both in the area I’m in. This is really interesting to me because I own three manufactured homes on private land. I always thought that the depreciate in value vs a stick built home. But they have proved to be good rentals. 

 Like Rachel said we typically invest for CashFlow. But I'll say I've had a lot of appreciation in my mobile homes over the years. I focus on the home and land, but there can be profitable CashFlow when it's on rented land. Parks of course too, but they have had a big pick up in competition. 

Post: I need help!!!

Adrian SmudePosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Plant City, FL
  • Posts 1,103
  • Votes 378
Quote from @Courtney Rodes:
Quote from @Adrian Smude:
Quote from @Sandy Miller:
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Quote from @Kevin Singh:

Hi, I'm new to real estate investing and I just wanted to know if anyone can help me get started. like is wholesaling best to start off or something else?


like others have said, be careful of the education which is more about the person giving the education than you. I started with buy and hold and that’s still my business. I’ve done and still do a little wholesaling but it’s not the best fit for me and it doesn’t grow passive income. Find what’s best for you!  Best of luck, let me know if I can ever be helpful! 

 Hi Adrian , can you share your strategies starting with buy/hold as a new investor . Most people start with wholesaling to raise the initial cashflow..


Sure, I’ll attempt to share best I can within this short writing. 

I find wholesaling to be one of the more difficult strategies because to do it correctly you have to know how to market, determine rehab costs for a rental and a fix and flip, negotiate with a seller, the closing process, etc. as a buy and hold investor I just need the rehab for a rentals, closing process, and landlord. 

As a buy and hold investor I worked a regular job and purchased rentals with my W2 income. Snow balled all the profits back to buy another property. My girlfriend at the time was bankable so she was doing the same. We weren’t buying multiple a year but becoming wealthy isn’t an over night thing. I learned a ton during my journey. I found ways to bring in more profit from less rentals. 
I made genuine relationships then found my niche in the individual mobile home with the land niche. Then I decided to focus only on cash flow so I sold off my equity and traded into CashFlowing mobile homes. 
I did a little wholesaling along the way but that was with properties that didn’t fit me as a buy and hold. My number one goal was always, how could I profitable buy and rent this property? 

I now primarily buy and rent mobile homes which pays for my life and I get to travel and teach what I do, but if I didn’t have my predictable income from my rentals I wouldn’t have the freedom. It sounds like a long process but I got to the freedom line much faster than many fix and flippers and wholesalers I know. 


 I am interested in the mobile home on private land because I already own three of them and they pay me nicely on the rental side. My question to you is, do you invest in these particularly because they are less expensive up front but yet provide rent compatible with a stick built house? 

I invest in mobile homes and teach the topic because not many people are. There’s less competition!  
I love the cash flow and that’s one of the first things that attracted me to mobile homes. They are also recession resistant. 

Post: Running the Numbers correctly

Adrian SmudePosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Plant City, FL
  • Posts 1,103
  • Votes 378
Quote from @Celestino Moreno:
Quote from @Adrian Smude:
Quote from @Celestino Moreno:

I have a lead (3bd, 2bth, 1104sqft) that I'm going to drive an hour and a half sometime tomorrow to see, the owner is really motivated. My question is, do you think it's a good property to get under contract because he owes 185k on the property and thats what he's asking for, but he lives in the hill sides and there is only 2 properties next to him that sold for 293k-306k . The property is in good condition the only downside is that there's a landslide that happened next to it, that needs to get cleaned up. 

Also Zillow zetstimate says it goes for 173k.

It's a mobil home. 

He also said he got it apprised a couple of months ago, and that its worth 260k

Reason for selling it, he is old and wants to leave the state to live with his family and doesn't want to stress over the home 

median home price for the are is 437k, but idk if it applies to these homes since they are 


 From what you’re saying it’s a deal for a fix & flip assuming it’s a new mobile home. What year is it? 

I’d recommend checking with local community banks and credit unions for what their qualifications are for bank loans for mobile homes so you can estimate your repairs properly if you are fix & flipping. 


if you plan to keep it as a rental what will it rent for?. Then run your numbers to see what your ROI would be and decide if that's an acceptable return for you n


 I'm trying to wholesale it, the year is 1995. Okay, I'll make sure to reach out to the local union and banks right now since I'm meeting him in a couple of hours. Unless I conclude that this investment doesn't look right. 

 You need some MH buyers on your list for properties like this. I like rural properties with land that are MHs. As others are saying there aren’t comps and far out to leave it alone. I found success in going after what most don’t want. I became the go to guy for realtors and investors. 
I suggest finding an investor like myself in your market for this property or the next one, so you don’t leave money on the table and help sellers

Post: Five Signs The Guru is a Scam

Adrian SmudePosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Plant City, FL
  • Posts 1,103
  • Votes 378
Quote from @Mike Dymski:

A good way to avoid scams (and bad business relationships) is to associate with people who walk the talk and actually buy and invest in what they are selling.

I totally agree which is why I’ve refused to teach anything that isn’t a part of my business. 

Post: Five Signs The Guru is a Scam

Adrian SmudePosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Plant City, FL
  • Posts 1,103
  • Votes 378
Quote from @Don Konipol:

Five signs of a guru scam

1. He tells you he’s doing this because “he want to give back”

2. He states “ if you think education is expensive you ought to try ignorance” 

3. He has employees standing by who can arrange an increase in your credit card limit

4. He travels with an “entourage” of current “students”

5. When asked for the success rate of his students he states that this is an entrepreneurial effort depending on the individual for success rather than specifying any quantitative stats. 


 1. Is difficult because there are truly people doing it for this reason. I think I agree that the ones to be cautious of are the ones that say this without passion and say it over and over. 
2. I believe this one start with ZigZiglar (or at least the farthest back I’ve heard it) and I do see the truth in it. But again I think it’s been tainted by the wrong people saying over and over and over again. 
3,4,&5 I totally agree with! 

Post: Running the Numbers correctly

Adrian SmudePosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Plant City, FL
  • Posts 1,103
  • Votes 378
Quote from @Celestino Moreno:

I have a lead (3bd, 2bth, 1104sqft) that I'm going to drive an hour and a half sometime tomorrow to see, the owner is really motivated. My question is, do you think it's a good property to get under contract because he owes 185k on the property and thats what he's asking for, but he lives in the hill sides and there is only 2 properties next to him that sold for 293k-306k . The property is in good condition the only downside is that there's a landslide that happened next to it, that needs to get cleaned up. 

Also Zillow zetstimate says it goes for 173k.

It's a mobil home. 

He also said he got it apprised a couple of months ago, and that its worth 260k

Reason for selling it, he is old and wants to leave the state to live with his family and doesn't want to stress over the home 

median home price for the are is 437k, but idk if it applies to these homes since they are 


 From what you’re saying it’s a deal for a fix & flip assuming it’s a new mobile home. What year is it? 

I’d recommend checking with local community banks and credit unions for what their qualifications are for bank loans for mobile homes so you can estimate your repairs properly if you are fix & flipping. 


if you plan to keep it as a rental what will it rent for?. Then run your numbers to see what your ROI would be and decide if that's an acceptable return for you n

Post: The BRRRR method is dead

Adrian SmudePosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Plant City, FL
  • Posts 1,103
  • Votes 378
Quote from @John Chong:

It depends on the market, I'm still seeing a lot of investors doing BRRRR's


 Are you seeing them doing the brrrr method because they found a really good priced deal or because of the means a lot of people have done the. In recent years of appreciation and interest rates? 

Post: The BRRRR method is dead

Adrian SmudePosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Plant City, FL
  • Posts 1,103
  • Votes 378
Quote from @Blake Weldon:

@Adrian Smude

Best investment at this point is tube rentals down the Rifle River!


 lol if only people knew... lol

Post: The BRRRR method is dead

Adrian SmudePosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Plant City, FL
  • Posts 1,103
  • Votes 378
Quote from @Pete Harper:

I would not say BRRRR is dead. Is it more difficult? Yes. Is it dead? No. Too many people get into real estate wanting to make a quick easy buck. The minute they run into difficulty they give up or just start whining. It takes work. You need to get out there and look harder for good deals and buy deeper. Don't expect a good deal to fall in your lap off MLS.

We recently purchased an off-market estate sale 2%+ deal, a duplex in smaller market.  Purchase was 20% down at 7.25%.  By buying at a deep discount we have over $16,000 in equity on day one.  We just completed the renovation of the first unit so we are half way into renovations.  The other side is currently rented and paying the mortgage.  We will need to wait a bit for seasoning but I expect to be able to refinance in the coming year pulling out all our original capital.  Meanwhile the property is running at a positive cash flow ($800 month) saving up for the next good deal.  I only need to find 1-2 of these deals a year.


 I love it!  I am similar to you where I only need a few really good deals a year.  Although I had some mega growth years of 12 units. :)

Post: The BRRRR method is dead

Adrian SmudePosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Plant City, FL
  • Posts 1,103
  • Votes 378
Quote from @Kyle Zdrojewski:

@Eliott Elias @Adrian Smude

I am a novice/new investor in the midwest and wanted to ask a few questions if your open to it. It sounds like the biggest issue with BRRRR in your opinions is the refinance portions? In todays markets the ability to refinance is tough given banks have tightened down on lending, and mortgage (personal or Commercial) rates being what they are. Does the remainder of the strategy still hold true? Buy distressed properties at below market rates that will pencil out, Rehab to "hopefully" create forced appreciation, Rent/Manage the properties that are at least break even, Repeat the process?


 yes, I like it!  I am a buy fix & rent investor.  I use debt but in a very conservative way.  I also like my debt being a human.  :)