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All Forum Posts by: Adam Rasmussen

Adam Rasmussen has started 9 posts and replied 95 times.

Post: No Tax Benefits From Owning Properties?

Adam RasmussenPosted
  • Accountant
  • Vancouver, WA
  • Posts 100
  • Votes 71
Originally posted by @Shokoofeh Farahani:

@Adam Rasmussen hello- my husband is retired and he does not have W2, can he get some tax benefit on our rental property ( married filing separately)? Showing that he has spent 750 hours to our rental? Thank you

That sounds like he easily meets the majority test since 100% of his time is devoted to real estate. Sounds like he qualifies! 

Post: No Tax Benefits From Owning Properties?

Adam RasmussenPosted
  • Accountant
  • Vancouver, WA
  • Posts 100
  • Votes 71
Originally posted by @Takeo Kingi:

@Adam Rasmussen can you elaborate on it being more beneficial if you’re considered a real estate professional?

Absolutely. If you are a high income earner, the IRS does not allow you to take a "net rental loss." Any losses are carried forward to future years. 
But if you qualify as a real estate professional, the IRS sees your rental activity as active instead of passive and allows you to take losses to offset other income, like your wages. 
This is really the main draw to being a real estate pro.  

Post: No Tax Benefits From Owning Properties?

Adam RasmussenPosted
  • Accountant
  • Vancouver, WA
  • Posts 100
  • Votes 71
Originally posted by @Daniel Dietz:

Thanks for the response @Adam Rasmussen. That is what I suspected.

IF I sold doing a "Seller Financed Note" of say 175K after a down payment of say just 25K, and then payments that kept my AGI under 100K, I assume the "value of the note" would not count in the current years income, since it has not "been collected" yet?

Thanks again, and I hope others might get a few ideas from this too.

Dan Dietz

That's creative thinking there! Sounds like you're talking about an installment sale where you are spreading any gain over a number of years. You would only recognize the portion of gain equal to the percentage of payments received on the note. 

Keep in mind that your payments won't be your recognized income either. Hypothetically you could receive $30k in payments towards the note during the year but only have to recognize $20k in income. The other $10k would be a return of your basis (similar to how you can't deduct principle payments on your mortgage, you don't have to recognize principle payments as income when you're on the receiving end of things). 

Post: No Tax Benefits From Owning Properties?

Adam RasmussenPosted
  • Accountant
  • Vancouver, WA
  • Posts 100
  • Votes 71
Originally posted by @E.S. Burrell:

@Adam Rasmussen

Exactly! My tax preparer was very helpful when she told me to keep a notebook with me at all times and document EVERYTHING I do pertaining to my properties....trips to Home Depot, phone calls to her, lawyer, tenants, etc. I just started doing this the end of 2019 so I didn’t reach the minimum hours needed for the year but I’m on top of it for 2020. Plus I use MileIQ to keep track of my business miles.

Soooooooo smart! You have a great preparer lol 

With technology nowadays there is not much of an excuse to not document. It will be more than worth it if Uncle Sam ever comes knocking and wants proof! 

Post: No Tax Benefits From Owning Properties?

Adam RasmussenPosted
  • Accountant
  • Vancouver, WA
  • Posts 100
  • Votes 71
Originally posted by @Daniel Dietz:

@Adam Rasmussen, @Ronan Donnelly or others,

So far I fall well within the <100,000K to reap those loses up to 25K, which are great.

My question is looking forward 5-10 years, when I *might* sell a few rentals. Say if I have 50K of W-2 or K-1 income from my day job, and I sell a rental and have a capital gain of 200K. Does that mean I can not take up to that 25K of losses that year?

Thanks, Dan Dietz

That is correct. Capital gains are included in your calculation for MAGI and any losses from rentals are carried forward to the next year. However, if you have operating losses for the rentals that are sold, those can be taken in the year of sale. 

Post: No Tax Benefits From Owning Properties?

Adam RasmussenPosted
  • Accountant
  • Vancouver, WA
  • Posts 100
  • Votes 71
Originally posted by @Milan Mehta:

@Adam Rasmussen @Joe Delgrosso

If you ever go part time from your W2, and can show you spend 51% of your time you can be an ACTIVE real estate professional and realize all of the deductions.

Definitely a common question that I hear a bunch from my clients. For good reason too! You essentially need to dedicate a majority of your year to real estate related activities. In addition to that you need at least 750 hours of related work to qualify. 

With my clients who have W2 wages but legitimately qualify as a RE pro I strongly advise them to document their hours during the year just in case. Better to have it and not need it than to need it and not have it! 

Post: No Tax Benefits From Owning Properties?

Adam RasmussenPosted
  • Accountant
  • Vancouver, WA
  • Posts 100
  • Votes 71
Originally posted by @Kenneth Garrett:

@Adam Rasmussen

The 100,000 limit and 150,000 limit is that based on gross W-2 or AGI.  

The threshold is based off your MAGI (Modified AGI). 

Post: No Tax Benefits From Owning Properties?

Adam RasmussenPosted
  • Accountant
  • Vancouver, WA
  • Posts 100
  • Votes 71

It honestly depends. I believe to fully realize the tax benefits of real estate you need to qualify as a real estate professional. For everyone else (especially those with higher W2 wages) real estate professional is only somewhat beneficial from a tax standpoint. 

Post: No Tax Benefits From Owning Properties?

Adam RasmussenPosted
  • Accountant
  • Vancouver, WA
  • Posts 100
  • Votes 71

It sounds like you are running into the passive activity rules. If you make over $150k in other income you cannot have a net loss for your rental activity. Any losses you have will be carried forward to future years. 

You are able to take a maximum of $25k to offset your W2 income if your income is below $100k. Once you are in the $100k - $150k range, your losses are limited. If you are above $150k, you cannot take any rental losses against your W2 income. 

Post: Tax Tip on Student Loan

Adam RasmussenPosted
  • Accountant
  • Vancouver, WA
  • Posts 100
  • Votes 71

This is a great summary for an already advantageous plan. I wanted to throw in a note specific to Oregon taxpayers:

Oregon is now giving taxpayers a refundable credit for 529 contributions starting in 2020. I believe they are the first state to do so. Previously, residents were only receiving a deduction for 529 contributions.