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All Forum Posts by: Adam Bileckyj

Adam Bileckyj has started 4 posts and replied 23 times.

Originally posted by @Jaron Walling:

I'm predicting this to stabilize/stay flat. No way in hell rents continue to rise at that rate year/year. COVID pricing is everywhere! I think if the property justifies the rent it won't slide back. Those properties will get applications and reserved in hours. If the property is beat up, unrenovated, and dirty you'll probably see a small pull back next year and slower turnover.

 That is what I am thinking also, at the very least most it should stay but demand may ween off a bit. 

Generally speaking, it looks like rents are up about 20% in SFH. Do you anticipate those to be the new average rent or will we see rents backslide? I am not sure what historic rent prices look like. I am ignoring declining areas or other anomalies, just trying to get a feel of the general market.

Post: San Diego County House Hack Help

Adam BileckyjPosted
  • Poway (San Diego)
  • Posts 25
  • Votes 7

I'd suggest looking further east like Ramona, Escondido, Alpine, Lakeside, Santee, (Vista also) and get something you can add an ADU on.

Originally posted by @William Goss:

@Adam Bileckyj Yes, you can customize a list with any criteria that you would like. In my opinion in acquiring off-market property the more narrowed down, the better - especially to start. This can cut costs and eliminate wasted time in reaching the right audience for you. If you would like any other advice, let me know!

 Any vendor/company (or two) you think I should work with? It'll be for a primary residence in the town I grew up in, work in and where my parents live if that matters. Something more personal would be something I should play to I would imagine?

Originally posted by @Brian Van Pelt:

@Adam Bileckyj

Define what you are looking for, then build you mailing list according to that list.


I am looking for lots .5+ acres and at least 3 beds. You're saying I can get a list/mailer of just those properties?  

Originally posted by @Matt Wells:

@Adam Bileckyj I was thinking I may put the cash flow in an S&P 500 fund and then use it to pay off the principal in a few years. I am open to any option suggested. 

That can be prudent. Generally speaking, you're in a much better position having 50k cash/stocks and 50k left on your mortgage then debt-free but don't have any anything saved up in cash/stocks. 

I am looking for a pretty specific residential property in a specific zip code. For example, can I send mailers to all homes in a zip code with lots of .5+ acres and 3+ bedrooms? Or do they just go out to everyone in a zip? 

What puts you in the strongest position? I am doubling down on stocks right now because it's easy while I am building my firm and the market is way down. In a year or two I will probably look for a property. 

Post: Buying land and building in a down market?

Adam BileckyjPosted
  • Poway (San Diego)
  • Posts 25
  • Votes 7
Originally posted by @Dan H.:
Originally posted by @Adam Bileckyj:
Originally posted by @Dan H.:
Originally posted by @Adam Bileckyj:
Originally posted by @Dan H.:
Originally posted by @Adam Bileckyj:
Originally posted by @Dan H.:

Every downturn is different on both a macro and local level.  

I do not know how raw land did, but San Diego county homes suffered around 20% decline in the Great Recession (GR).  There were areas that suffered worse.  Valley Center had recently completed a large residential community that had issues finding buyers.  It drove the entire area down more than most other areas.  However, the area where our rentals were located suffered no noticeable decline in rents.  People moved into high occupancy living situations but the banks had so many empty units the supply and demand stayed fairly level.

The 1987? stock crash was a few years before I purchased our first RE, but I do not remember it resulting in a significant RE price decline but I was just graduating from college and could have simply been unaware.

The Dot Com bust (circa 2000), in the local market, had RE prices rising.  We purchased a great RE in 1999 that had enough appreciation (mostly market appreciation but a little value add) that we were able to leverage it to do 2 additional purchases (I think both in 2000 but one may have been 2001).

The issue with the GR on taking advantage of the price drop is that money became scarce.  Only wealthy investors could get financing to take advantage of the situation.  So a lot of the wealth to be made on the reduced price was by housing corporations and some by REITs.  If you cannot get financing, it is not easy to buy much RE.

To summarize, down financial markets have not always resulted in down RE markets.  I suspect the same is true of raw land.  The one time in my RE investing life that the down financial market did result in large declines to RE prices, the scarcity of money made it difficult to take huge advantage of the situation.

Good luck

Hi Dan,

Thank you for the detailed reply. I see you also live in Poway, small world. I am actually looking to invest here as that is where my family and I live/work. You basically confirmed my suspicions but its always best to ask people who have a better understanding and experience. I am considering taking advantage of some of the new ADU laws and move from my current place. Just trying to look at options and prepare.

Our next RE investment is likely to be a high end location ADU.

We were recently beaten out on a great candidate RE that I was disappointed we lost out on, but with the current uncertainty I am less disappointed. I am unsure we would make the same type of offer as we were willing to a month ago (but if it falls out of escrow I will consider it). It was in Green Valley for $850K. The low price is due to a both being dated and being on a busy road. The actual house was large (not large for Green Valley but large for many areas of San Diego) with an existing addition that already had its own entry. It was set up great for JADU and had barely enough land (this was a risk) to place a stick built ADU (there would be some risk associated with the ADU - Will it fit). We were going to start with the ADU (2 BR, 1.5BA, 1 car garage) and hope rules change to make JADU a possibility for non-owner occupied. About $1.1 for 2 units in Green Valley. Eventually $1.15m for 3 units in Green valley. As you likely know, almost every unit in Green Valley is over $1m (up to ~$2.5M), so 3 units for $1.15M would be great, 2 units for $1.1m would be good.

Yeah, I was looking at a place off poway road between garden road and espola (right before you start going up the grade) that just sold last month for $850k. It was on .6 acres but still an older horse neighborhood. I too was shocked it went for as much as it did. I just couldn't see it go at that price, apparently I was wrong... I think the ADU laws allow the adu and jadu to be non owner occupied and can be grandfathered that way as long as its build before 2025. Am I wrong?

Your correct on ADU. Your incorrect on the JADU. State rules allow jurisdictions to mandate owner occupancy if adding a JADU. Every jurisdiction that I am aware of does require owner occupancy if adding a JADU.

I expect this will change in the not so distant future. It is why our plans started with the more expensive detached ADU. We would need to wait for a rule change to do the JADU that mostly only needed a kitchenette. Even high end for Green Valley it should be far less than $50k (I budgeted $50k but think in should be doable for $30k).

Good luck


Thanks for clarifying. Thats incredibly inexpensive, everything I have seen is about 3x that much to build. Are you a DIY type or just really well connected?  I have so much to learn!

I do not plan on doing much work myself nor am I that well connected but I also do not believe my prices are low for what I want.   My intent is that they are both conservative and higher end. 

I allocated $250k for the ADU which will likely be 750' due as much for the room, including my desire to include 1 car garage, more than to avoid impact fees. If I am told it can fit substantially larger than the 750 (I.e. at least 850'), i will build larger and may need to increase the budget.

For the JADU I allocated $50k but expect it to be a bit over $30k. This is because it was already set for an ADU due to a previous addition. The previous addition already had a master bedroom en suite (bathroom, walk in closet), a spare room, and it's own entrance. Basically the $30k will go to design and the kitchenette, but to be conservative I allocated $50k.

$850k purchase + $250k ADU + $50k JADU eventually (when owner occupancy is not mandated) = $1.15m.

Where do you believe my numbers are too optimistic? We have not done an ADU yet. We have a fair amount of relevant experience including many rehabs (over a dozen) and right now are rebuilding two heavily fire damaged units (over $200k damage), but no ADUs. I have heard various numbers and believe and hope I am being conservative.

 Hi Dan,

Yeah, that sounds right. I was thinking you were building more of a free-standing JADU which is something I'm looking into and considerably more expensive as I am sure you know. I'll give you a shout if I pull the trigger on anything and start the process here. The planning department seems pretty eager to help. I need to get connected with a good contractor though. I've just been looking at a lot of the Maxable stuff and other random info if you know of anyone. 

Post: Buying land and building in a down market?

Adam BileckyjPosted
  • Poway (San Diego)
  • Posts 25
  • Votes 7
Originally posted by @Dan H.:
Originally posted by @Adam Bileckyj:
Originally posted by @Dan H.:
Originally posted by @Adam Bileckyj:
Originally posted by @Dan H.:

Every downturn is different on both a macro and local level.  

I do not know how raw land did, but San Diego county homes suffered around 20% decline in the Great Recession (GR).  There were areas that suffered worse.  Valley Center had recently completed a large residential community that had issues finding buyers.  It drove the entire area down more than most other areas.  However, the area where our rentals were located suffered no noticeable decline in rents.  People moved into high occupancy living situations but the banks had so many empty units the supply and demand stayed fairly level.

The 1987? stock crash was a few years before I purchased our first RE, but I do not remember it resulting in a significant RE price decline but I was just graduating from college and could have simply been unaware.

The Dot Com bust (circa 2000), in the local market, had RE prices rising.  We purchased a great RE in 1999 that had enough appreciation (mostly market appreciation but a little value add) that we were able to leverage it to do 2 additional purchases (I think both in 2000 but one may have been 2001).

The issue with the GR on taking advantage of the price drop is that money became scarce.  Only wealthy investors could get financing to take advantage of the situation.  So a lot of the wealth to be made on the reduced price was by housing corporations and some by REITs.  If you cannot get financing, it is not easy to buy much RE.

To summarize, down financial markets have not always resulted in down RE markets.  I suspect the same is true of raw land.  The one time in my RE investing life that the down financial market did result in large declines to RE prices, the scarcity of money made it difficult to take huge advantage of the situation.

Good luck

Hi Dan,

Thank you for the detailed reply. I see you also live in Poway, small world. I am actually looking to invest here as that is where my family and I live/work. You basically confirmed my suspicions but its always best to ask people who have a better understanding and experience. I am considering taking advantage of some of the new ADU laws and move from my current place. Just trying to look at options and prepare.

Our next RE investment is likely to be a high end location ADU.

We were recently beaten out on a great candidate RE that I was disappointed we lost out on, but with the current uncertainty I am less disappointed. I am unsure we would make the same type of offer as we were willing to a month ago (but if it falls out of escrow I will consider it). It was in Green Valley for $850K. The low price is due to a both being dated and being on a busy road. The actual house was large (not large for Green Valley but large for many areas of San Diego) with an existing addition that already had its own entry. It was set up great for JADU and had barely enough land (this was a risk) to place a stick built ADU (there would be some risk associated with the ADU - Will it fit). We were going to start with the ADU (2 BR, 1.5BA, 1 car garage) and hope rules change to make JADU a possibility for non-owner occupied. About $1.1 for 2 units in Green Valley. Eventually $1.15m for 3 units in Green valley. As you likely know, almost every unit in Green Valley is over $1m (up to ~$2.5M), so 3 units for $1.15M would be great, 2 units for $1.1m would be good.

Yeah, I was looking at a place off poway road between garden road and espola (right before you start going up the grade) that just sold last month for $850k. It was on .6 acres but still an older horse neighborhood. I too was shocked it went for as much as it did. I just couldn't see it go at that price, apparently I was wrong... I think the ADU laws allow the adu and jadu to be non owner occupied and can be grandfathered that way as long as its build before 2025. Am I wrong?

Your correct on ADU. Your incorrect on the JADU. State rules allow jurisdictions to mandate owner occupancy if adding a JADU. Every jurisdiction that I am aware of does require owner occupancy if adding a JADU.

I expect this will change in the not so distant future. It is why our plans started with the more expensive detached ADU. We would need to wait for a rule change to do the JADU that mostly only needed a kitchenette. Even high end for Green Valley it should be far less than $50k (I budgeted $50k but think in should be doable for $30k).

Good luck


Thanks for clarifying. Thats incredibly inexpensive, everything I have seen is about 3x that much to build. Are you a DIY type or just really well connected?  I have so much to learn!