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All Forum Posts by: Ace Kaspar

Ace Kaspar has started 17 posts and replied 106 times.

Post: BRRRR Question Financing

Ace KasparPosted
  • Investor
  • Raleigh, NC
  • Posts 112
  • Votes 71
Quote from @Robin Simon:
Quote from @Ace Kaspar:

When it comes to the end of a BRRRR, I understand you can not do a cash out refinance within 6 months of buying the property.

If you are taking out a loan, is there still a way to effectively BRRRR? 

I was looking into short term financing and then converting it to long term but honestly, a little lost on that.

Any advice or guidance on this would be great.

Thanks in advance!


Yes - you can definitely still do an effective BRRRR deal with a hard money loan to purchase, a lot of investors are very successful with this strategy.

And like some of the commenters have mentioned, the refinance "seasoning period" is typically six months, but not universal on all refinance lenders, some will allow cash-out refinances in as few as three months. Ideally, you should go with a lender that is BRRRR focused and friendly, and does both short term hard money financing and cash-out refinance loans in house (it won't be the same loan "converted" but the process will be much easier and smoother with using the same lender)

 Hi @Robin Simon,

When using HML's are you able to refinance out of those within 30-90 days if the rehab work is complete?

I know some lenders are more lenient but what is your take on that.

Best,
Ace

Post: BRRRR Question Financing

Ace KasparPosted
  • Investor
  • Raleigh, NC
  • Posts 112
  • Votes 71
Quote from @Doug Spence:

@Ace Kaspar That 6-month seasoning period is lender-dependant. I've done a cash-out refi after only 4 months of ownership. 

The best way to handle the financing for a BRRRR is to purchase the property and fund the rehab using private money (or hard money if you have to, but its usually more expensive) and then once you're rehab complete, you do the cash-out refi using a DSCR (debt service coverage ratio) lending product so you can get out of the short term financing (the private or hard money) and put the property under the less expensive, longer-term financing which would ideally be a 30 year fixed interest rate product.

I've done two out-of-state BRRRR's and I'm happy to go more in-depth if you want.

Good luck and keep us updated on your journey!

Hi @Doug Spence,

Appreciate the overview of it!

I would like to set up more time to chat about it for sure if you're open to it.

Shoot me a DM when you see this and lets set something up to chat more in depth about this!

Post: BRRRR Question Financing

Ace KasparPosted
  • Investor
  • Raleigh, NC
  • Posts 112
  • Votes 71
Quote from @Eliott Elias:

You don't have to pay a property off to BRRRR, you can acquire with hard money and refi with conventional.


 Hi Eliott,

Exactly what I am thinking after doing more research and thanks for the information!

If you're looking to network, feel free to shoot me a DM! Always looking to network with more people in the REI space.

Post: BRRRR Question Financing

Ace KasparPosted
  • Investor
  • Raleigh, NC
  • Posts 112
  • Votes 71
Quote from @Account Closed:

I can offer you any loans of your choice, what's your email so I can send you the terms.

Hi Michael,

Currently I am only looking for HML to finance my next deal.

Post: BRRRR Question Financing

Ace KasparPosted
  • Investor
  • Raleigh, NC
  • Posts 112
  • Votes 71
Quote from @Nicholas Burch:
Quote from @Ace Kaspar:

When it comes to the end of a BRRRR, I understand you can not do a cash out refinance within 6 months of buying the property.

If you are taking out a loan, is there still a way to effectively BRRRR? 

I was looking into short term financing and then converting it to long term but honestly, a little lost on that.

Any advice or guidance on this would be great.

Thanks in advance!


Hey Ace,

First of all-Shoutout to dreamville(aka Fayetteville, NC) my father was stationed at Bragg for 10+ years.

Second-The refinance period is typically dependent on the lender. For example, a VA loan can be refinanced after you have made 6 consecutive payments. A non-QM lender who tailors their mortgage products for investors may be more lenient to a quick cash-out refi.

Third-If you need a lender who can provide refinancing DM me, I will send you my recommendations.


 Hi Nicholas,

Appreciate it!

Currently I am looking for HML to finance my next deal and if one can't front the full amount then I will be looking for two of them.

Other than that, always looking to connect with other investors so if you want to chat more just shoot me a DM!

Post: LIVE: Biggest obstacle to buying your first investment property?

Ace KasparPosted
  • Investor
  • Raleigh, NC
  • Posts 112
  • Votes 71

For most, I would imagine is having enough for closing cost and the down payment. 

Creative financing is easier said than done and hard money lenders are not too easy to find like grabbing a loan from a company.

Post: BRRRR Question Financing

Ace KasparPosted
  • Investor
  • Raleigh, NC
  • Posts 112
  • Votes 71

When it comes to the end of a BRRRR, I understand you can not do a cash out refinance within 6 months of buying the property.

If you are taking out a loan, is there still a way to effectively BRRRR? 

I was looking into short term financing and then converting it to long term but honestly, a little lost on that.

Any advice or guidance on this would be great.

Thanks in advance!

Post: Rather Than a BUNCH of books- why not master 1?

Ace KasparPosted
  • Investor
  • Raleigh, NC
  • Posts 112
  • Votes 71
Quote from @Grant Shipman:

There's an addiction new or wanna-be investors have called education addiction. They drink books, articles, podcasts, classes, etc until they have a blurry-eyed hangover and then they repeat. I recommend mastering 1 book instead. If you were to master 1 real estate investment book, or recommend mastering only 1 book to an aspiring/newer person, what book would it be? This is in regard to buy-and-hold, b/c this is the passive-income ideal for REI.


 Hi Grant,

This is a great post and I agree a lot of investors or people looking to learn more get stuck in the cycle of trying to consume anything and everything REI. Now I am not talking down about that but becoming a master of one trade vs average at all of them I find to be great.

I am not sure on the strategy I would pick just yet as I am still figuring that out. I still want to get into STR and MTR but for the long term I see LTR as a safe bet and one I am good with.

Starting out I would recommend LTR/house hacking so a beginner can get the feel of the fundamentals of what it takes to own a house.

Post: What is a cash out refinance?

Ace KasparPosted
  • Investor
  • Raleigh, NC
  • Posts 112
  • Votes 71
Quote from @Zobiri Mehdi:

Hello everyone. 

As I mentioned in the post above , can someone explain to me what a cash out refinance is, and also how can I use to it to refinance a HELOC ?

If you can give me a couple of examples shored up by some numbers it would be great .

Thank you .


 Going to check back in and read this later. Very insightful information for sure!

Quote from @Michael A.:

I'm trying to understand the different strategies using the BRRRR method and how it generally works. I'm hoping some investors can contribute to the discussion and help answer my questions. Thanks.

From what I understand, it involves getting money from a hard money lender to buy and fix up a property. 

For example, 

hard money loan of $100k

Purchase price $200k

20% Down = $40k

$60k in fixing it up. 

New appraised value of $400k. 

Rent it out.

1: from here would you cash out refinance or sell the property to pay back the loan? 

2: If you cash out refinance let's say 75% of $400k, what do you do with the left over money after paying back the hard money loan. Do you use the left over cash out money to buy another rental? Or do you do the BRRRR method again this time using your own money?

3: Is the BRRRR method best for 2-4 unit properties or single family?

4: How many months should the BRRRR method take?


5: Where do you find a good hard money lender? Bigger pockets? 




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