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All Forum Posts by: Alex Applebee

Alex Applebee has started 8 posts and replied 79 times.

Post: My first flip at 26, a woman, ZERO construction skills.

Alex ApplebeePosted
  • Investor
  • Versailles, ky
  • Posts 82
  • Votes 167
Originally posted by @Christopher B.:

I don't think you are stretching anything Alex. I've been through it myself and faced similar doubts from people. You did good, you produced a level of quality and style that many experienced investors don't or can't produce. Most investors are investors only, they mind the dollars and cents and do not have the vision or skill to make a rehab fulfill it's true potential for the defined budget. Their homes "smell like home depot" as I like to say because they can't see further than the bottom shelf of the local hardware store, especially in the beginning. You'll only get better as you do more rehabs as well. Congrats on your successful deal. 

 Thank you. I did a lot of work to try and make it look nicer. Although admittedly my bathroom vanities were off the shelf sale from home depot and I HATED them at the end. I got creative. I bought tile for the showers off of craigslist. I bought all of my doors and the toilets and the kitchen sink from Building Materials Outlet in Phoenix (AMAZING STORE, GO THERE PHOENIX FLIPPERS! PREPARE TO HAVE YOUR MIND BLOWN). I replaced the window in the guest bathroom with a stained glass window I found for $150 in a Salvage/antique shop off of 7th ave in phoenix, called Qcumberz. I also sold the same store the antique doors that were in the house (they were too damaged to stay in the flip, but $40 is $40!). I sold the old retro stove left in the house that was super cool, but something that was just too taste specific to be appropriate in a flip. I read about how to stage for little money and the "beds" in all the rooms are air mattresses with walmart bed linens. The "upholstered headboards" are insulation board covered in fabric. The brick patio was laid by hand by an awesome guy I found on Craigslist who did all the work by himself, by hand, cigarette in mouth, flip flops and a giant jug of sun tea (again phx people, I would love to share his number, send me a message). The sand under the patio was left over from the stucco work. The bricks were on the property already from an odd and falling apart patio in the back we pulled up. 

Here are some more pictures. This is the guest bathroom process. The first picture is some of the CRAP work I paid for and had to pay to re do. They actually framed the window like that (insulation board to fill in the gap?! They were going to just start to tile over that drywall board, that isn't even the correct board, and isn't even flush with the wall. Second picture is after the incorrect drywall was taken back out, the window was correctly framed, and the correct backer-board (wonderboard) was installed. Third picture is the final product (the house was built in '48 so I was trying to keep it sort of retro, but still appealing to as many people as possible). Oh and the tub I also got at Building Materials Outlet for $60.

Post: My first flip at 26, a woman, ZERO construction skills.

Alex ApplebeePosted
  • Investor
  • Versailles, ky
  • Posts 82
  • Votes 167
Originally posted by @Shannon S.:

Congrats. And thank you for taking the time for the write up. I really have to agree with Cara here, great encouragement. I don't think I've heard a persons first impressions of flipping, dealing with contracts from a distance and not coming from a construction background before...all at once!

Can't help but think of the expression,"Fortune favors the bold" in this case.

Hint, hint...I'd love your experience to be one of the next ones on the BiggerPockets podcasts. :)

 To be clear I was living in Phoenix at the time of the flip (well technically a suburb). I couldn't have done it if I myself was out of state. Maybe in 10 year I could, but sure not right now.

Post: My first flip at 26, a woman, ZERO construction skills.

Alex ApplebeePosted
  • Investor
  • Versailles, ky
  • Posts 82
  • Votes 167
Originally posted by @Aleks Gifford:

Most excellent. Would you mind sharing the sourcing for this find and how you found the private investor for your first flip?

Private investor was a family member. I found the deal on the MLS (i have my real estate license.) The property was a foreclosure that had sat on the market a while, but the bank had just reduced the price 30k.

Post: My first flip at 26, a woman, ZERO construction skills.

Alex ApplebeePosted
  • Investor
  • Versailles, ky
  • Posts 82
  • Votes 167
Originally posted by @Christopher B.:
Originally posted by @Nicholas Moffett:
Originally posted by @Alex Applebee:
Originally posted by @Nicholas Moffett:

I did my first flip at 24.  Only made $37 dollars.  good quality work, but who helped you ? you didnt do all this yourself with no experience 

 With the exception of the family member out of state loaning me money at 6% on the project site unseen I did this myself. Obviously not the actual construction, but I found the deal, planned the renovation, found and managed all of the subs (no general contractor), sourced and purchased the construction material, and then listed the property when the renovation was complete.

I educated myself on the process, walked through other peoples' flips, learned some more, and I did this. Myself. Was I lucky on some aspects? Yes, a full loan at 6% is incredibly lucky. But I can tell you I would have secured financing without that help if I had to, because I am determined to make my own success. Your comment is disrespectful.

 Sorry you feel that attacking me and calling me disrespectful is what this forum is about, I assure you it is not and pointing fingers at people and being rude wont get you anywhere in life except borrowing money from family members at 6%.....  I bought my first house CASH (my own money) at 24 and flipped it.  I had help, it did not look as ncie as this which is why I believe you're taking all the credit when obviously someone else helped you with the planning and building as this is not the job of a first timer... Truth>Lies
Your lies are disrespectful to this community and forum 

 Your comments are disrespectful to her and this community. Go look through my posts, I posted pictures of my very first rehab, it looked incredible and I did it myself just like she did. You going to call me a liar as well?Asking for opinions and researching ideas on how to make a house look good like I, and I am sure she did, does not take away from the fact it was our vision and we pulled the final trigger. If you had no vision on how to rehab a house with style when you got started that's your fault, nobody else's. Why can't you just be happy for someone, even if she is stretching the truth I don't see how commenting like that is accomplishing anything. 

 Thank you, although I am not stretching the truth either. It is a little sad to me and sends the wrong message to people because essentially it is being implied that somehow educating yourself and putting in the hard work is not enough. It implies that you will only have success and put out a good product if you have someone else holding your hand. That isn't true. Is flipping tough? Yes, but mainly the self discipline and managing of people. Is it rocket science? No. My previous career was a much more stressful job with a lot more knowledge required.

Follow the rules and use your brain and you can have success. Maybe not every time. I bought right and did have some luck that some higher priced comps closed while I was working on mine. I thought I would make 50k and I made 19k. I have been honest that I had a family member loan me money at a fantastic rate, and that gave me a big leg up on the finance part. I walked through other deal. I still could have run the project into the ground easily. 

Post: My first flip at 26, a woman, ZERO construction skills.

Alex ApplebeePosted
  • Investor
  • Versailles, ky
  • Posts 82
  • Votes 167
Originally posted by @Wendy Bykowicz:

Wow @Alex Applebee, well done!

I am so glad you got around to posting about your first flip. Your results are amazing, and your story is inspiring! I have been educating myself as much as possible, and hope to dig into my first flip this year. Finding the courage (not to mention the time while working full time) will be my biggest challenge.

Thanks for sharing your experience. Great job!

 I was very lucky to not be working when I was on this project. I am back in CA now and will be working while doing another flip (when I find one), and I know it is going to be harder. I think being OCD on organization and timelines will be key and make it easier. 

Post: My first flip at 26, a woman, ZERO construction skills.

Alex ApplebeePosted
  • Investor
  • Versailles, ky
  • Posts 82
  • Votes 167
Originally posted by @Nicholas Moffett:
Originally posted by @Alex Applebee:

Thats fine, but Ive been in this business for years....  Seen many first time flips, and thats not a first time flip, unless of course you had help....  Anyone with half a brain can see that.  Just please be honest, and have integrity and dont take all the credit when you obviously had help.  thanks and good luck 

I've walked through crap flips. It takes just as much work to make them look like junk as it does to put together a nice project. The neighborhood that this project is in is full of junk flips. This project took me 4 months of construction when it should have taken two. I paid to have work that was shoddy and not up to my standards re-done. My profit would have been double had I slapped lipstick on a pig and called the substandard work good enough. I wanted a quality project. I'm sorry you have trouble accepting that, but it is your issue, not mine.

Post: My first flip at 26, a woman, ZERO construction skills.

Alex ApplebeePosted
  • Investor
  • Versailles, ky
  • Posts 82
  • Votes 167
Originally posted by @Nicholas Moffett:
Originally posted by @Alex Applebee:
Originally posted by @Nicholas Moffett:

I did my first flip at 24.  Only made $37 dollars.  good quality work, but who helped you ? you didnt do all this yourself with no experience 

 With the exception of the family member out of state loaning me money at 6% on the project site unseen I did this myself. Obviously not the actual construction, but I found the deal, planned the renovation, found and managed all of the subs (no general contractor), sourced and purchased the construction material, and then listed the property when the renovation was complete.

I educated myself on the process, walked through other peoples' flips, learned some more, and I did this. Myself. Was I lucky on some aspects? Yes, a full loan at 6% is incredibly lucky. But I can tell you I would have secured financing without that help if I had to, because I am determined to make my own success. Your comment is disrespectful.

 Sorry you feel that attacking me and calling me disrespectful is what this forum is about, I assure you it is not and pointing fingers at people and being rude wont get you anywhere in life except borrowing money from family members at 6%.....  I bought my first house CASH (my own money) at 24 and flipped it.  I had help, it did not look as ncie as this which is why I believe you're taking all the credit when obviously someone else helped you with the planning and building as this is not the job of a first timer... Truth>Lies
Your lies are disrespectful to this community and forum 

 I take my integrity very seriously. Your comment implying that I am lying is disrespectful and I called it out as so. Your justification that my first project looks better than your first project is not a solid foundation to build your argument on. If you have any valid questions I am happy to answer them. My understanding about this forum is that we share our positive and negative experiences in real estate to help educate ourselves and those around us. Did I miss something? Is this forum about baseless accusations? I do not think so.

I've been interested in real estate since I was a teenager, and have been putting in place the pieces to do a flip together for two years before I made it happen. I am proud of my success and stand by it.

Post: My first flip at 26, a woman, ZERO construction skills.

Alex ApplebeePosted
  • Investor
  • Versailles, ky
  • Posts 82
  • Votes 167
Originally posted by @Nicholas Moffett:

I did my first flip at 24.  Only made $37 dollars.  good quality work, but who helped you ? you didnt do all this yourself with no experience 

 With the exception of the family member out of state loaning me money at 6% on the project site unseen I did this myself. Obviously not the actual construction, but I found the deal, planned the renovation, found and managed all of the subs (no general contractor), sourced and purchased the construction material, and then listed the property when the renovation was complete.

I educated myself on the process, walked through other peoples' flips, learned some more, and I did this. Myself. Was I lucky on some aspects? Yes, a full loan at 6% is incredibly lucky. But I can tell you I would have secured financing without that help if I had to, because I am determined to make my own success. Your comment is disrespectful.

Post: My first flip at 26, a woman, ZERO construction skills.

Alex ApplebeePosted
  • Investor
  • Versailles, ky
  • Posts 82
  • Votes 167

Also I think we structured it this way because according to my investor he didn't think it would make money and he had planned just to hold it as a rental after I fixed it up. Hows that for a vote of confidence, LOL. 

Post: My first flip at 26, a woman, ZERO construction skills.

Alex ApplebeePosted
  • Investor
  • Versailles, ky
  • Posts 82
  • Votes 167

For those asking how we structured the loan, we did things a little differently seeing as this was a deal within the family. Unless you have explicit trust in the person (and 99.9% I would say, don't) I would not do it this way. He is out of state and took my word on everything, and I made sure to have all the financials clear in order to honor that trust. It works for us. The house was purchased in his name and all repair funds were placed in a joint bank account. I was paid through escrow on the close of the house. through the HUD-1 and title company during the sale the family member/investor was paid the interest on the loan, the purchase price and repair cost. My personal LLC was paid the remainder after that was paid the remaining profit. It was called something like "realty consulting fee" on the HUD-1. It worked for us.