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All Forum Posts by: Brandon Proctor

Brandon Proctor has started 36 posts and replied 231 times.

Post: Just Joined BP!

Brandon ProctorPosted
  • Wichita, KS
  • Posts 235
  • Votes 46

Welcome to the site @Thomas Clark you are in the right place.

Post: Hopeful Newbie in Houston, TX.

Brandon ProctorPosted
  • Wichita, KS
  • Posts 235
  • Votes 46

Welcome to the site @Nicki B. I'm also a newbie investor who is trying to get into the REI game. There is a ton of information on the site and I have learned so much from it already!

Good luck! 

Post: Starting with little downpayment cash.

Brandon ProctorPosted
  • Wichita, KS
  • Posts 235
  • Votes 46
Originally posted by @Joe Villeneuve:

1 - Hard money lender

2 - Doing a sandwich lease option

3 - Doing a few Wholesale deals to build up your cash

4 - Partner up with another investor

5 - Look for houses where your cash position will work.

 Hard money lenders kind of scare me because of the high interest and special requirments from what I hear.  Could you elaborate on how a sandwich lease option works?

I have considered wholesaling but not sure how well it would work in my market.

Post: Why do investors choose to mentor newbies?

Brandon ProctorPosted
  • Wichita, KS
  • Posts 235
  • Votes 46

I have also wondered the same thing lately.  I have been asking so many "newbie" questions to a lot of people recently.  It BLOWS my mind that people take the time to go through in detail all the questions that I have. 

Post: Starting with little downpayment cash.

Brandon ProctorPosted
  • Wichita, KS
  • Posts 235
  • Votes 46
Originally posted by @Alex M.:

As an "investor" with my first rental just purchased and undergoing rehab right now, I just managed to solve that equation (for one property - I'm sure I will have to figure it out again soon for the next). I originally was going to go the FHA route - as that required only 3.5% down, but due to seller issues I ended up fortuitously stumbling across a private lender who was willing to finance 100% of the property - with the expectation/requirement that I build equity in the next two months through improving the property. This was definitely a non-standard approach through an acquaintance, but from what I am gathering, non-standard approaches are fairly frequent in this industry. Good luck figuring it out - I'm a firm believer that if you just focus on educating yourself, while at the same time taking action (even if you don't yet know how to do it properly) results will happen. Definitely look more at FHA - even FHA 203k. 2-4 unit MF properties, living in one and renting the other seem to be a proven strategy for a low-cost entry into this business.

 Thanks Alex for your input, private lenders really scare me because of those expectations and requirements. The building equity with improving the property does sound like a good idea since I was thinking about doing light renovation on any property that I would buy.  I would definitely look into MF homes if there were more in my area.

Post: Starting with little downpayment cash.

Brandon ProctorPosted
  • Wichita, KS
  • Posts 235
  • Votes 46
Originally posted by @Account Closed:

Sorry to post yet again @Brandon Proctor , If you have a retirement account, you can check with that account manager to see what your options are about borrowing against yourself.  For example, if you have a tax-sheltered annuity with $40,000 in it, you can borrow up to $20,000.  You'd have to pay it back with minimum interest.  The bonus here is that the interest you pay is actually going into your account - not a lender.

 I actually don't have a retirement account right now, so sad to say thats not an option right now. I must say thank you for all the options you have given me in which I haven't even heard of.

Post: Starting with little downpayment cash.

Brandon ProctorPosted
  • Wichita, KS
  • Posts 235
  • Votes 46
Originally posted by @Account Closed:

@Brandon Proctor 

I forgot one very cool option! You can find duplexes/triplexes to live in that are near the price of a regular SFR. The bonus here is that the banks will account for the fact that you will have the other unit(s) rented out and may approve you for more money. The rent coming from the other units will undoubtedly ease your financial burden on the mortgage payment every month. This is a great option if you're ok living with common walls. You can also use FHA loans on 2-4plexes as long as you intend on living in a unit for at least 1 year - just like a SFR

 Funny that you mentioned that because that was my number one plan, only down is that the duplexes/triplexes in the area aren't very appealing.  There are nice multifamily homes in the area but I have yet to find one for sale, not sure if I have been looking in the right places.

Post: Starting with little downpayment cash.

Brandon ProctorPosted
  • Wichita, KS
  • Posts 235
  • Votes 46
Originally posted by @Account Closed:

@Brandon Proctor 

I've also been aggressively persuing investing with little money down.  Depending on what you're interested in doing specifically with investing, there are different options I've read about.  I'll list a few below with a few comments:

1: FHA - requires you to live in the residence (at least one year by contract), lower interest rate, but required mortgage insurance, 3.5% down, very strict appraisal and inspection FHA requirements, you can only have one FHA loan (within a certain distance of each other). There are different FHA loans to accomodate structural or cosmetic fix-ups if needed.

2:  Do you have a Key Bank in your area?  They do "community loans"... same sort of story where you need to live there for at least a year.  Don't know much more about it other than lower interest rate.  If you don't have a Key Bank, you can always check around your local banks/credit unions to see if they have something similar.

3:  Hard money lender - you can google search or search bigger pockets for more information.  Sometimes they will lend 100% of what you need but with the trade-off of charging you a very high interest rate (10-18%).  Typically lending options last up to one year before you need to refinance or use your exit strategy.  I believe this type of lending is best for doing flips.  

4:  Does your job have a benefit/discount on loan information/closing costs/etc?

5:  Owner financing - You can easily find properties that owners are willing to finance and be your "lender".  I find them often on Craigslist.org in the real estate section.

6:  Lease Option/Lease Purchase:  Like a taste-test, you can "rent" for however long the lease lasts, then purchase using some of the "rent" you paid as toward your down on that property.  

I've been studying lots of financing and am always hungry for more information.  Much of this information is referenced from bigger pockets and from a book I read on lending, "Mortgage Secrets All Borrowers Must Learn - But Lenders Don't Tell" Gary W. Eldred, PhD.  It might be sort of dry, but extremely informative about your buying options.  

I hope this helps!

 Thanks Kyle for all the information!  It seems like my best option right now is living in the home for a year or so.  Which isn't a terrible thing but I was really hoping to get into a positive cash flow before then.  Not trying to seem like I'm trying to rush into something.

You helped a ton!

Post: Starting with little downpayment cash.

Brandon ProctorPosted
  • Wichita, KS
  • Posts 235
  • Votes 46
Originally posted by @Elizabeth Colegrove:

Is it possible for you to live in the house and rent out rooms? That would give you give your foot in the door with you low downpayment. If you do the VA loan it is 0 down. Than you could save up for your next rental at 0% down. That is how we started only add in a repair :)

 I actually have a growing family (child #3 on the way), renting out rooms wouldn't really be an option for me sadly.

Post: Starting with little downpayment cash.

Brandon ProctorPosted
  • Wichita, KS
  • Posts 235
  • Votes 46

Hello everyone, 

I have been scavenging through the forums lately looking for some advice on this and listening to a Podcast right now. Question is how does an eager hopefully soon to be investor get into the game with little for an downpayment? I see that investors have to put down 20-25% on an investment property. Which for me would be quite I big chunk of money. I know there is the VA loan for military members which I could use but I have to stay in the home for "x" amount of time. I also have heard about FHA loans but I'm not sure of the ins and outs of this loan.

Are there any other outlets out there in which I have not stated? The last option I know is getting a personal loan from a coworker, family or friend.  Do I know any of those mentioned that could give me say 20k I honestly don't know.  I maybe rambling a bit right now but I'm typing my thoughts down as they come.  

Also is there anyone out there in my local area that could possibly show me the ins and outs of how they go about their business?  I have networked with a few awesome people in my area just wondering if there are others out there. If there are other investors close I am willing to help out with whatever I can. Thanks everyone!