

How I'm Generating 25% Returns on Turnkey Rentals Without Debt
A Good Strategy for the Busy Professionals
I'm busy. You're busy. Most of us on BP are not full time real estate investors. We have children, jobs, businesses, problems, and not much free time. With that small amount of free time I have, I don't have a lot of time to search, analyze deals, rehab a property, let alone any desire to property manage it. Turnkey real estate rentals have proven to be an incredible strategy for me to exit the stock market ups and downs, and enter the world of REI.
Being able to buy a property that is sourced, vetted, rehabbed, and quality renters are screened and put in place, then the rents are direct deposited in my account on the 20th has been a dream come true. However, as we all know, NOT all turnkey companies are playing the game the same way. The vast majority (do not mistake this for ALL of them) are offering 8% to maybe 12% returns, and SOME are even offering 12-15% returns WITH debt leverage. So basically what that means is if you purchased the property straight cash, your returns would be much lower. I even just visited a site where a very well known Turnkey did not factor Maintenance into any of the projections. Seriously - a property that doesn't need repairs? Baffled on how this is done!
Third Time's a Charm
Two not so great turnkey purchase experiences led me to get it right on the 3rd go around. It's a good thing I'm very persistent and didn't lump them all together.
So how am I generating 25% NET returns? Not gross, where expenses haven't been factored in. There are 3 things in play: 1) I'm buying BELOW retail prices. Most turnkeys price their properties based on the monthly rent commanded, and that often does not equate to an under-valued property, so starting out of the gate your returns aren't strong. 2) Volume. We all understand this I'm sure. If I buy one house, I don't have the leverage with the Turnkey to get an additional discount. If I buy 5, I'm showing I'm serious, I want a long term partnership, and it's less time and effort for the company per property. 3) Referrals! I believe in the concept, the company, the service, and the returns, so I've sent several investor friends to purchase property. I get a referral credit for each one.
Setup your Referral Agreement
For example, I just bought a Tri-plex for $30,000 cash. The Rehab was completely covered by my referrals. It rents for $1200 on 2 units - the 3rd hasn't been filled and it's still generating 33% NET returns (50% gross!!).
My Turnkey partner is very aware that marketing and selling for him is extremely valuable. He can spend less effort on generating sales, and more time on sourcing and vetting properties. Marketers are one of the, if not the, highest paid professions in the world! By you marketing for them, you should be rewarded! So, make sure to create an arrangement with your Turnkey provider to where you are well compensated for bringing them business - you DESERVE it!
Comments (8)
By chance, does your TK also work in Kansas City area?
Steven Silva, almost 8 years ago
@Natasha Keck yes they are in Indy, PM me or text me - 269-369-9654 and I can set you up with a meeting and property tour while you're in town if you'd like
Jack Gibson, over 8 years ago
I'm headed to Indy to check on my portfolio, network, and possibly add to my portfolio. Your profile suggests you invest in Indy, is your turnkey provider there?
Natasha Keck, over 8 years ago
@Allen Fletcher mine are all out of state. My local area is not the greatest for scaling and finding good returns, so if I want to invest into real estate and not have to worry about the acquisition, rehab, and property management, I can only do one thing and that's find a good turnkey company. The challenge is, they all typically set pricing at 1% rule so there's not much margin left for the investors. I found one who is generally in the 2% range so my returns are very strong and I'm very happy with the PM side. I guess the way I look at it is, I'd rather be doing this out of state then be in the stock market where Britain votes to withdraw from the EU and that single event panics the market downward.
Jack Gibson, over 8 years ago
@Jack Gibson
Are your turnkey properties in your local area or are they out of the area? I have looked at turnkey properties in a number of areas, and I do not like the ones in my area and feel uncomfortable out of state. What is your strategy?
Allen Fletcher
Allen Fletcher, over 8 years ago
@Melissa Dorman all great questions. I could say I got lucky by being persistent and that's how I found them, or I could argue that because we give back 10% of our income every month, we are favored. Either one would work. I think the biggest thing at play here is simply the pricing. He's a volume guy, so he wants me to buy multiple deals from him, and because of his pricing (trust and service are great, but we all know money talks), I do.
Add in I can buy cash which gives me a serious discount, plus referrals and you have a perfect storm. I bought first one in January and yes long term, we shall see, but the last two deals I did should move me above 30% once rehabbed and rented. CapX may bring down over 5 years, for sure. I don't expect vacancy to affect numbers much as his average vacancy rate is 6% across 150 properties and I'm not quite full yet.
Jack Gibson, almost 9 years ago
Congrats! Your story is inspiring and definitely not the norm. I imagine you had to seriously vet your turn key provider. How did you vet them?
Usually most of the value that an investor can offer is taken up and monetized by the turn key (buying low, streamline rehabs, qualify tenant screening, scaled property management) and then they give you the margin or crumbs that are left (as you wrote above)
Furthermore, if the properties are out of state, your cash flow can be killed in one crisis that causes you to fly out.
If you try to organize your own team of agent, contractor, title company etc. it becomes a part time or maybe FULL time job.
It seems here your value add is buying multiple properties at at time and marketing for the company as a trade for a better deal. How long have you been doing this? I'm curious about the long term results after Cap X and vacancies.
Melissa Dorman, almost 9 years ago
Bruce Stayner, almost 9 years ago