New Investor in Columbus OH

New Investor in Columbus OH

Real Estate Investor · Columbus, OH · Member since 2011 · 74 posts · 25 votes

Hey guys I am a new real estate investor. I have really enjoyed this site. A few questions for you, I have come into this thing and taken some massive action-including sending letters to people who recently inherited property, bandit signs, massive craiglist emails and am getting ready to do the yellow letters. My focus has been "wholesaling" and trying the no money down approach. One reason is because I have heard over and over that is where new investors should start.

However I do have some money in a 401k that I am considering rolling over to a Self Directed IRA and buying some bank owned property. I do not want to give up on wholesaling-as I do have some potential deals I am working now, and I definitely want to do a few regardless of how long it takes-just to have that experience under my belt. I have heard some investors say never use your own money. I have heard other investors say wholesaling is great because you can do it with no money but it is the hardest-and make it seem like its for those with no other options?

So my questions are this: would you recommend I use a self directed IRA with my own money to get some property?

Do investors who have been around awhile-what is the most common way they finance? Do many actually continue to do wholesaling with no money even after they are more experienced?

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  • Real Estate Consultant · Lansing, MI · Member since 2011 · 356 posts · 306 votes
    14y

    You can certainley do both. The self-directed IRA investments are a great way to use the money. While you don't get the tax advantages, finding a a cash-flow property to boost your retirement is a popular strategy and I have not heard anyone say anything negative about it.

  • Real Estate Investor · Columbus, OH · Member since 2011 · 74 posts · 25 votes
    14y

    You can only use the money for long term-I was thinking of using it for a home that needs some rehabbing and then flipping it...

  • Real Estate Investor · Chattanooga, TN · Member since 2009 · 191 posts · 47 votes
    14y

    Hi Ember,

    I have a property near the new Children's Hospital in Columbus. The hospital, through Healthy Homes or something like that, and lots of investors are changing the neighborhood.

    It might be worth a trip to go to the Healthy Homes office and take a look at the map of properties rehabbed and built. In the area, you might find some investors willing to owner finance. You also might be able to wholesale in the neighborhood.

    One caveat is that crime abounds in the area so keep that in mind. Good luck. mck

  • Real Estate Investor · Columbus, OH · Member since 2011 · 74 posts · 25 votes
    14y

    Hey Ms. Newsom thanks for the advice. I actually know someone who has a property there that they have or were trying to flip. Are you originally from Columbus-or do you invest out of state?

    If anyone can answer some of my questions I would be grateful! Cheers!

  • Developer · Garland, TX · Member since 2008 · 8k+ posts · 4k+ votes
    14y

    Ember, I am a believer in using self directed IRAs for real estate investing with some caveats. First, long term buy and holds don't make much sense in an IRA, since they give you tax advantages already. Shorter term deals with high (ordinary income) tax make the IRA a good vehicle. There are a bunch of rules to follow in a SD-IRA, too. Also, it sounds like your 401k is your nest egg. Why not get some more real estate experience before self directing this money? To help make sure you'll make money.

  • Real Estate Investor · Chattanooga, TN · Member since 2009 · 191 posts · 47 votes
    14y

    I'm an out of state investor. I'm currently focusing on Chattanooga, TN.

    Another thought is to give John Hyre a call[removed]. He runs a tax and accounting firm out of Westerville that specializes in real estate accounting. He might have some other ideas for you.

    In bright daylight, you could take a drive around the neighborhood and look for contractors. See if you can get some information from them. When I was there last, I met a contractor who gave me the name and number of his investor client. mck

  • Real Estate Investor · Columbus, OH · Member since 2011 · 74 posts · 25 votes
    14y

    Your right maybe I should wait until I have a few deals under my belt. It is so tempting though when after hours of looking I find some great Bank Owned Properties that I know I cant get with any of this no money down wholesaling.

    Also once I do start using my funds, I feel it will be easier to reach my other goal of getting private investor funds. I dont want to ask other people to invest in me if I havent done any deals and if I havent used private money before-especially my own. I feel that will help me understand how the process works-plus I can say "Hey I'm not asking you to invest in something, that I'm not already investing my own 401k into!" Plus since I'm a former banker-I know so many bankers that are getting horrible returns on their retirement funds and I feel like they will be shocked when I show them how much moe they can get. This is something I didn't even know was possible as a banker!

  • Real Estate Investor · 30906, GA · Member since 2010 · 161 posts · 36 votes
    14y

    Ember,

    Keep your money in the bank. You really don't need to dabble in IRAs etc.. in the business of wholesaling. Read a bit more and you will see why.

  • Real Estate Investor · Columbus, OH · Member since 2011 · 74 posts · 25 votes
    14y

    I have never heard that directly about not using your IRA for wholesaling, why do you say that Delondon?

  • Real Estate Investor · 30906, GA · Member since 2010 · 161 posts · 36 votes
    14y

    The only reason why you should use your IRA is if you are trying to buy homes to flip on your own. You say that you are thinking about buying bank owned property with your IRA right?

    I was just letting you know to keep the 2 separate because you really can wholesale homes with no money out of your pocket. (Besides the marketing you will be doing.)

  • Real Estate Investor · Columbus, OH · Member since 2011 · 74 posts · 25 votes
    14y

    Yeah, I know you can do wholesaling with no money! I havent gotten my first deal yet. I think buying a house to fix up and using your cash/IRA to get started may be a little easier. I guess they have different risks in my opinion-you can risk your own money but get a deal done quicker. Or you can use no money and have to spend a lot of time to get your first wholesale deal.

  • Real Estate Investor · 30906, GA · Member since 2010 · 161 posts · 36 votes
    14y

    Until you actually put out some bandit signs, make a few offers and get some deals under contract, you won't actually know how long it will take. Some brand new guys have enough drive to have a deal on the table in 3-4 days. Don't have to worry about the buyers list, they already got that in order. You can start building that in your sleep.

    It does take some time but its not as time consuming as you think.

    When you consider buying, keeping track of contractors, investing large sums of your money, and finding a buyer for your rehab, that would take longer in my opinion. Plus the risk involved with your money....

    There is no comparison when you talk about wholesaling vs. flipping.

    No risk vs. a whole lot of risk. But its your choice. You can have a deal as fast as you want one in wholesaling, but its really up to you.

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