yellow letters and list source

Duriel Taylor

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Realtor · FL · Member since 2013 · 372 posts · 83 votes

10y

@Loren Becker ,

Thank you for the prompt feedback. The postage cost for yellowpages included in the $148?

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Justin SilverioPro Member

Developer · Andover, MA · Member since 2008 · 1k+ posts · 489 votes

10y

@Duriel Taylor Listsource is only a data provider. If they are charging you $0.20/lead, you can purchase the list cheaper through a reseller.

Duriel Taylor

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Realtor · FL · Member since 2013 · 372 posts · 83 votes

10y

@Justin Silverio ,

Thank you for the prompt feedback. With listsource providing the contacts I would now have to make a decision on what marketing material source to reach out to these contacts correctly? Then a provider such as Yellowletters, allows me to send marketing material to these individuals directly from their warehouse or do the material come directly to me and I have to get the postage and mail them off? Last, the reseller you mentioned, where could I find such of a source? I look forward to hearing from you soon. Take care and enjoy your day.

Regards,

Erin Elam

Little Elm, TX · Member since 2014 · 356 posts · 47 votes

8y

Originally posted by @Justin Silverio:

@Duriel Taylor Listsource is only a data provider. If they are charging you $0.20/lead, you can purchase the list cheaper through a reseller.

I'm reviving this thread and hoping there's still some life in it. I have read through other posts as well, and I can't really tell whether people who use yellowletters.com only use it for the marketing material and use a data source which is then sent to YL.com; or if they mostly order both items from YL.com.

I already know what parameters I'm looking for, for my leads. I just can't see if paying ListSource for the data is cheaper than getting it from YL.com.

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I look forward to your wisdom!

Erin

Erin Elam

Little Elm, TX · Member since 2014 · 356 posts · 47 votes

8y

Originally posted by @Erin Elam:

Originally posted by @Justin Silverio:

@Duriel Taylor Listsource is only a data provider. If they are charging you $0.20/lead, you can purchase the list cheaper through a reseller.

I'm reviving this thread and hoping there's still some life in it. I have read through other posts as well, and I can't really tell whether people who use yellowletters.com only use it for the marketing material and use a data source which is then sent to YL.com; or if they mostly order both items from YL.com.

I already know what parameters I'm looking for, for my leads. I just can't see if paying ListSource for the data is cheaper than getting it from YL.com.

BP - what is the verdict on this million dollar question??

I look forward to your wisdom!

Erin

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Melanie Hartmann

Flipper/Rehabber · Baltimore, MD · Member since 2018 · 265 posts · 387 votes

8y

Wow... still no one? I was really hoping for an answer. I purchased 709 leads from list source and used VistaPrint to mail them. HOWEVER, Vista only accepted about 430 of those names... so I was a bit irritated by that. It was my first mailing, so I'm not sure if was an issue with Vista or an issue with the list. When I googled an address or two that Vista wouldn't accept, they seemed like legitimate addresses to me. Also, the names were missing from a small handful so I had to put in generic text before Vista would mail to those few.

*here's to hoping that some will shed some light on the lead list debate!*

Sharad M.Pro Member

Carlsbad, CA · Member since 2010 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes

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Originally posted by @Melanie Hartmann:

Wow... still no one? I was really hoping for an answer. I purchased 709 leads from list source and used VistaPrint to mail them. HOWEVER, Vista only accepted about 430 of those names... so I was a bit irritated by that. It was my first mailing, so I'm not sure if was an issue with Vista or an issue with the list. When I googled an address or two that Vista wouldn't accept, they seemed like legitimate addresses to me. Also, the names were missing from a small handful so I had to put in generic text before Vista would mail to those few.

*here's to hoping that some will shed some light on the lead list debate!*

Sounds like an issue on Vista Print side. There are always a small % of addresses that are rejected but close to 300 out of 709 seem very high. What did Vista Print tell you the reason for rejection was?

Sharad M.Pro Member

Carlsbad, CA · Member since 2010 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes

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Originally posted by @Erin Elam:

Originally posted by @Justin Silverio:

@Duriel Taylor Listsource is only a data provider. If they are charging you $0.20/lead, you can purchase the list cheaper through a reseller.

I'm reviving this thread and hoping there's still some life in it. I have read through other posts as well, and I can't really tell whether people who use yellowletters.com only use it for the marketing material and use a data source which is then sent to YL.com; or if they mostly order both items from YL.com.

I already know what parameters I'm looking for, for my leads. I just can't see if paying ListSource for the data is cheaper than getting it from YL.com.

BP - what is the verdict on this million dollar question??

I look forward to your wisdom!

Erin

Buy from YL.com if they can provide you cheaper. YL.com will provide you the exact same list as ListSource so go with cheaper source. I would be surprised if YL.com can't beat the price from ListSource. If not, there are tons of other companies that can get you ListSource data for lot cheaper than ListSource.com. Please feel free to let me know if you have any more questions.

Melanie Hartmann

Flipper/Rehabber · Baltimore, MD · Member since 2018 · 265 posts · 387 votes

8y

Perfect! VistaPrint just said the address wasn't valid according to USPS standards. I'm not sure why. The few I searched came up in google just fine. I think it was saying that the zip code wasn't valid. Well in actuality it was valid so I couldn't "fix" it. I guess I'll see about importing the ones that Vista didn't accept into another mailing company.

What companies would you recommend to get cheaper listsource data from? I'm not familiar with those.

Thank you for your time!

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Jay HinrichsBusiness Member

Real Estate Consultant · Summerlin, NV · Member since 2014 · 45k+ posts · 66k+ votes

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Originally posted by @Sharad M.:

Originally posted by @Erin Elam:

Originally posted by @Justin Silverio:

@Duriel Taylor Listsource is only a data provider. If they are charging you $0.20/lead, you can purchase the list cheaper through a reseller.

I'm reviving this thread and hoping there's still some life in it. I have read through other posts as well, and I can't really tell whether people who use yellowletters.com only use it for the marketing material and use a data source which is then sent to YL.com; or if they mostly order both items from YL.com.

I already know what parameters I'm looking for, for my leads. I just can't see if paying ListSource for the data is cheaper than getting it from YL.com.

BP - what is the verdict on this million dollar question??

I look forward to your wisdom!

Erin

Buy from YL.com if they can provide you cheaper. YL.com will provide you the exact same list as ListSource so go with cheaper source. I would be surprised if YL.com can't beat the price from ListSource. If not, there are tons of other companies that can get you ListSource data for lot cheaper than ListSource.com. Please feel free to let me know if you have any more questions.

I see you got your tech/marketing company launched great work... will have to check it out

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Jay HinrichsBusiness Member

Real Estate Consultant · Summerlin, NV · Member since 2014 · 45k+ posts · 66k+ votes

8y

Originally posted by @Melanie Hartmann:

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Perfect! VistaPrint just said the address wasn't valid according to USPS standards. I'm not sure why. The few I searched came up in google just fine. I think it was saying that the zip code wasn't valid. Well in actuality it was valid so I couldn't "fix" it. I guess I'll see about importing the ones that Vista didn't accept into another mailing company.

What companies would you recommend to get cheaper listsource data from? I'm not familiar with those.

Thank you for your time!

Melanie in the FWIW file Sharad is one of the sharpest investors I know.. many would do very well to follow his methodology.. he is humble and wont brag on himself but I can tell you from someone who has worked 4 decades at this.. he is an incredible talent.

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Jay HinrichsBusiness Member

Real Estate Consultant · Summerlin, NV · Member since 2014 · 45k+ posts · 66k+ votes

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Originally posted by @Melanie Hartmann:

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Perfect! VistaPrint just said the address wasn't valid according to USPS standards. I'm not sure why. The few I searched came up in google just fine. I think it was saying that the zip code wasn't valid. Well in actuality it was valid so I couldn't "fix" it. I guess I'll see about importing the ones that Vista didn't accept into another mailing company.

What companies would you recommend to get cheaper listsource data from? I'm not familiar with those.

Thank you for your time!

Also for me as a funder of wholesale deals in BAlt I do about 10 a month.. for my vendors.. I can tell you that 5 to 10 mailers a month is whats required to get any kind of traction.

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Sharad M.Pro Member

Carlsbad, CA · Member since 2010 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes

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Originally posted by @Jay Hinrichs:

Originally posted by @Melanie Hartmann:

Perfect! VistaPrint just said the address wasn't valid according to USPS standards. I'm not sure why. The few I searched came up in google just fine. I think it was saying that the zip code wasn't valid. Well in actuality it was valid so I couldn't "fix" it. I guess I'll see about importing the ones that Vista didn't accept into another mailing company.

What companies would you recommend to get cheaper listsource data from? I'm not familiar with those.

Thank you for your time!

Melanie in the FWIW file Sharad is one of the sharpest investors I know.. many would do very well to follow his methodology.. he is humble and wont brag on himself but I can tell you from someone who has worked 4 decades at this.. he is an incredible talent.

Jay, thank you for the kind words. I have been extremely blessed to be at the right place at the right time and have right people like you around me to guide me. We had a bumpy road in 2016 and part of 2017 but we cleaned up a lot since last year and this year has been a game changer for us.

I just want to grow up to be like you :)

Sharad M.Pro Member

Carlsbad, CA · Member since 2010 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes

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Originally posted by @Jay Hinrichs:

Originally posted by @Melanie Hartmann:

Perfect! VistaPrint just said the address wasn't valid according to USPS standards. I'm not sure why. The few I searched came up in google just fine. I think it was saying that the zip code wasn't valid. Well in actuality it was valid so I couldn't "fix" it. I guess I'll see about importing the ones that Vista didn't accept into another mailing company.

What companies would you recommend to get cheaper listsource data from? I'm not familiar with those.

Thank you for your time!

Also for me as a funder of wholesale deals in BAlt I do about 10 a month.. for my vendors.. I can tell you that 5 to 10 mailers a month is whats required to get any kind of traction.

Melanie, agreed with Jay here. We are sending out around 20,000 mailers per month but it took us couple of months before the deals started coming in. You will have some up and down months but the key is to stick with the marketing plan.

You will have months where you will get some incredible deals and couple of deals will cover marketing budget for your entire year and rest of the deals are just gravy but don't stop.