Probates Vs. Probates w/ RE Vs. Obituaries w/ RE Vs. Inheritance leads

Probates Vs. Probates w/ RE Vs. Obituaries w/ RE Vs. Inheritance leads

Real Estate Investor · Minneapolis , MN · Member since 2014 · 169 posts · 33 votes

Hi All

Quite a few people asked me to explain the differences between four category of leads - probates, probates with real estate, obituaries with real estate and inheritance. Summary is based on five years of extensive research. Happy to hear from more knowledgeable and experienced on the Bigger Pockets, I am still learning!

Probate Leads


1. Majority of instances property of the deceased person has to go through the process to transfer the title to the legal heirs.
2. It usually takes 3-24 months to complete the process; vary from state to state, and value of the property
3. Probates records are filed at county clerk office or county family court
4. Probate records may or may not have real estate associated. 20-50% of these records have real estate associated
5. Not the best lead type for real estate investor, high marketing costs and follow up time. Marketing costs incurred on ones without property is a waste
6. Not all property transfers go through probates process due to trusts, gift deeds and other tax optimisation techniques. Some opportunities may be missed
7. These leads are popular with investors

Probates with Real Estate


1. Above probates leads are processed to look up for property associated. Probate leads with Real estate are considered as leads
2. Better lead type for real estate investor, lower marketing costs and less lead but quality leads for follow up
3. Not all property transfers go through probates process due to trusts, gift deeds and other tax optimisations techniques. . Some properties may be missed
4. These leads are Very popular with investors

Obituaries with Real Estate


1. Obituaries records scrubbed to find if the deceased owns real estate. Records with Real estate are considered as Obituaries with Real Estate leads
2. Very early in the probates (or may not) process. Some investors like to get in touch with family early. Others think it too early.
3. Good opportunity to tap properties which do not go through probate process because of trust and other tax optimisations techniques
4. These leads are popular with wholesalers, who run massive campaigns and bond insurance companies

Inheritance Leads


1. Property transferred to heirs after the completing the probate process or other methods
2. Title of the property owned by heirs
3. Better lead type for investor; Heir may not live in the inherited property
4. Most popular with investors

Feel free to contact me if you need any further information.

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Lender · Greater LA/Orange County area, CA · Member since 2012 · 3k+ posts · 3k+ votes
11y

Here's my simplified version:

1) Pre-probate - real estate owner deceased

2) Active probate case - real estate under control of PR

3) Inherited - Post-probate distributed real estate

@Atchut Neelam given all your research, tell us about the fruits of your labor!

Can you post about deals you've completed?

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  • Syracuse, NY · Member since 2014 · 143 posts · 35 votes
    11y

    Interestinf post, I definitely learned something. 

  • Lender · Greater LA/Orange County area, CA · Member since 2012 · 3k+ posts · 3k+ votes
    11y

    Here's my simplified version:

    1) Pre-probate - real estate owner deceased

    2) Active probate case - real estate under control of PR

    3) Inherited - Post-probate distributed real estate

    @Atchut Neelam given all your research, tell us about the fruits of your labor!

    Can you post about deals you've completed?

  • Real Estate Investor · Minneapolis , MN · Member since 2014 · 169 posts · 33 votes
    11y

    Hi Rick

    I am not an investor but offer all types of real estate leads/lists and support services. My investor customers closed several deals. my company is celebrating 5 yrs next month. Happy to answer any questions one may have and share knowledge I have. 

  • Syracuse, NY · Member since 2014 · 143 posts · 35 votes
    11y

    @RickHarmon and thank you, sir, for the shortened list :-)

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