Finding Sellers with Messy Titles in Real Estate Wholesaling
Wholesaler · Marysville, WA · Member since 2023 · 12 posts · 6 votes
Finding Sellers with Messy Titles in Real Estate Wholesaling
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Joel BongcoBusiness Member
Investor · Honolulu HI & Los Angeles, CA · Member since 2018 · 375 posts · 181 votesQuote from @Joshua Alcantara:
I’m looking to move out of the current "red ocean" of real estate wholesaling and focus on helping sellers with problematic titles, such as liens, divorce issues, probate, quitclaim deeds, etc.
All my previous high-value assignment fees came from working with sellers who inherited properties without a proper deed. In those cases, the title company guided us on the necessary steps to resolve the title issues, and we did whatever was required to close the deal. However, I haven’t closed on those types of deals in a while. I’m not focused on volume, but rather on maximizing the assignment fee per deal, compared to doing multiple smaller deals to achieve the same result.
My question is: Where can I find sellers with messy titles? I’m in the Greater Seattle area—would paid ads work for this niche?
Aloha Joshua, I deal with clouded/messy titles often and it's not my first choice as its froth with a lot of time, costs and risks. The patterns that I often see are the following 1. Pre-foreclosure - homeowners are desperate to avoid foreclosure and they quitclaim deed the title to some XYZ organization , person, or to a lawyer that specializes in foreclosure defense. Regrettably the end up with a greater mess. 2. Probate - is good - however the more heirs the greater the possibility of a contested probate. There is typically one or more heir that feel he or she deserves more then all the other heirs because the took care of auntie or uncle and hires an attorney to contest the probate. Thus more time, money and risk. 3. Divorce - its easier if the house is in the divorce decree otherwise you need to play mediator between parties to come to an agreement. Clouded titles are often uninsurable from a title insurance perspective. To clear it, you often have to do an expungement or a quiet title action via a lawyer which gets expensive quickly. If you are looking for messy titles - just following the Notice of Defaults, Affidavit of Death, Pre-Probate, Divorce Decrees on PropertyRadar or Propstream.
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- 1yJoel BongcoBusiness MemberInvestor · Honolulu HI & Los Angeles, CA · Member since 2018 · 375 posts · 181 votes
Quote from @Joshua Alcantara:
I’m looking to move out of the current "red ocean" of real estate wholesaling and focus on helping sellers with problematic titles, such as liens, divorce issues, probate, quitclaim deeds, etc.
All my previous high-value assignment fees came from working with sellers who inherited properties without a proper deed. In those cases, the title company guided us on the necessary steps to resolve the title issues, and we did whatever was required to close the deal. However, I haven’t closed on those types of deals in a while. I’m not focused on volume, but rather on maximizing the assignment fee per deal, compared to doing multiple smaller deals to achieve the same result.
My question is: Where can I find sellers with messy titles? I’m in the Greater Seattle area—would paid ads work for this niche?
Aloha Joshua, I deal with clouded/messy titles often and it's not my first choice as its froth with a lot of time, costs and risks. The patterns that I often see are the following 1. Pre-foreclosure - homeowners are desperate to avoid foreclosure and they quitclaim deed the title to some XYZ organization , person, or to a lawyer that specializes in foreclosure defense. Regrettably the end up with a greater mess. 2. Probate - is good - however the more heirs the greater the possibility of a contested probate. There is typically one or more heir that feel he or she deserves more then all the other heirs because the took care of auntie or uncle and hires an attorney to contest the probate. Thus more time, money and risk. 3. Divorce - its easier if the house is in the divorce decree otherwise you need to play mediator between parties to come to an agreement. Clouded titles are often uninsurable from a title insurance perspective. To clear it, you often have to do an expungement or a quiet title action via a lawyer which gets expensive quickly. If you are looking for messy titles - just following the Notice of Defaults, Affidavit of Death, Pre-Probate, Divorce Decrees on PropertyRadar or Propstream. - Specialist · Winter Springs, FL · Member since 2009 · 1k+ posts · 747 votes1y
I've found many properties with title issues wind up with unpaid property taxes so checking on delinquent taxes, tax deed sales and lands available for taxes might help you identify some.
- Wholesaler · Marysville, WA · Member since 2023 · 12 posts · 6 votes1y
Quote from @Joel Bongco:
Quote from @Joshua Alcantara:
I’m looking to move out of the current "red ocean" of real estate wholesaling and focus on helping sellers with problematic titles, such as liens, divorce issues, probate, quitclaim deeds, etc.
All my previous high-value assignment fees came from working with sellers who inherited properties without a proper deed. In those cases, the title company guided us on the necessary steps to resolve the title issues, and we did whatever was required to close the deal. However, I haven’t closed on those types of deals in a while. I’m not focused on volume, but rather on maximizing the assignment fee per deal, compared to doing multiple smaller deals to achieve the same result.
My question is: Where can I find sellers with messy titles? I’m in the Greater Seattle area—would paid ads work for this niche?
Aloha Joshua, I deal with clouded/messy titles often and it's not my first choice as its froth with a lot of time, costs and risks. The patterns that I often see are the following 1. Pre-foreclosure - homeowners are desperate to avoid foreclosure and they quitclaim deed the title to some XYZ organization , person, or to a lawyer that specializes in foreclosure defense. Regrettably the end up with a greater mess. 2. Probate - is good - however the more heirs the greater the possibility of a contested probate. There is typically one or more heir that feel he or she deserves more then all the other heirs because the took care of auntie or uncle and hires an attorney to contest the probate. Thus more time, money and risk. 3. Divorce - its easier if the house is in the divorce decree otherwise you need to play mediator between parties to come to an agreement. Clouded titles are often uninsurable from a title insurance perspective. To clear it, you often have to do an expungement or a quiet title action via a lawyer which gets expensive quickly. If you are looking for messy titles - just following the Notice of Defaults, Affidavit of Death, Pre-Probate, Divorce Decrees on PropertyRadar or Propstream.Thanks, Joel, for the information!
I’m definitely going to take a look at those on PropStream and PropertyRadar. I love doing these types of deals—not only because most people avoid them, but also because it’s rewarding to help sellers in these situations. The big assignment fee is just a bonus!
Thank you again, Joel, for sharing such helpful information!
- Wholesaler · Marysville, WA · Member since 2023 · 12 posts · 6 votes1y
Quote from @Peter Walther:
I've found many properties with title issues wind up with unpaid property taxes so checking on delinquent taxes, tax deed sales and lands available for taxes might help you identify some.
Thanks, Peter, for the info!
I’m going to take a look and see if I can pull a tax delinquent list for the areas where I’m looking to do deals.
Happy Friday
- Investor · Clairemont, CA · Member since 2011 · 3k+ posts · 2k+ votes1y
There was a member on here a decade ago that focused on these type of deals...K. Marie Poe...her account is deactivated, but a search may turn up some of her info if you search the name and someone mentioned her in their replies. The other is Rick H (https://www.biggerpockets.com/users/rtpg1) he's also commented on quite a few title issue/ AP/messy deal threads over the years and has quite a bit of experience.
- Specialist · Winter Springs, FL · Member since 2009 · 1k+ posts · 747 votes1y
Quote from @Joshua Alcantara:
Quote from @Peter Walther:
I've found many properties with title issues wind up with unpaid property taxes so checking on delinquent taxes, tax deed sales and lands available for taxes might help you identify some.
Thanks, Peter, for the info!
I’m going to take a look and see if I can pull a tax delinquent list for the areas where I’m looking to do deals.
Happy Friday
Good luck.
- Wholesaler · Marysville, WA · Member since 2023 · 12 posts · 6 votes1yThanks, Matt, for the resources! I’ll definitely take a look—appreciate it, brother.
Quote from @Matt Devincenzo:
There was a member on here a decade ago that focused on these type of deals...K. Marie Poe...her account is deactivated, but a search may turn up some of her info if you search the name and someone mentioned her in their replies. The other is Rick H (https://www.biggerpockets.com/users/rtpg1) he's also commented on quite a few title issue/ AP/messy deal threads over the years and has quite a bit of experience.
- Specialist · United Kingdom · Member since 2024 · 53 posts · 7 votes1y
Quote from @Joshua Alcantara:
I’m looking to move out of the current "red ocean" of real estate wholesaling and focus on helping sellers with problematic titles, such as liens, divorce issues, probate, quitclaim deeds, etc.
All my previous high-value assignment fees came from working with sellers who inherited properties without a proper deed. In those cases, the title company guided us on the necessary steps to resolve the title issues, and we did whatever was required to close the deal. However, I haven’t closed on those types of deals in a while. I’m not focused on volume, but rather on maximizing the assignment fee per deal, compared to doing multiple smaller deals to achieve the same result.
My question is: Where can I find sellers with messy titles? I’m in the Greater Seattle area—would paid ads work for this niche?
You will find these leads by doing milti layered county records database searches either yourself or getting someone else to do it.This is the same concept as list stacking which finds more motivated sellers by looking for severel motivations rather than 1.
1)pick a niche motivated seller lead like pre foreclosure thats 1 level of motivation
2)search for additioal debts and problems say tax delinquencies 2nd level
3)search for other liens 3rd level
4)search for code violations/complaints 4th level
5)appraise/tax website to confirm address
6). Skip trace
Do not use propstream or propwire or propshark or the like, there data is at least 2 weeks behind county records for a least preforeclosures, you can only access a third of the preforeclosures available from county records, and, they dump all there new(which is really 2weeks old) updated leads at the same time meaning you get the same old leads as everyone else at exactly the same time. See my home page for better explanation. Even list stacking is useless when the person with the many problems has been called 50 times and given 50 offers.
Go where other people are not and do/pay for the work they will not do. - Specialist · United Kingdom · Member since 2024 · 53 posts · 7 votes1y
links to the studies I done to prove PS data is behind by 2wks and only 1/3 what is provided by county records. Please download to get full functionality. If you open it is a lot harder to navigate.
Any issues with links please contact me
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1RNXH3mBgJLq-uJRHJ6nH9OPVZFg...
PS Preforeclosure Leads Behind County Data Deep Dive Sept 2024
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1vmGk8l_YIcUk5awBIu_D_sp5ifT...
PS Preforeclosure Leads Data Is Only a Third of What Is Available from County Records- Wholesaler · Marysville, WA · Member since 2023 · 12 posts · 6 votes1y
Quote from @Kieron Osullivan:
links to the studies I done to prove PS data is behind by 2wks and only 1/3 what is provided by county records. Please download to get full functionality. If you open it is a lot harder to navigate.
Any issues with links please contact me
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1RNXH3mBgJLq-uJRHJ6nH9OPVZFg...
PS Preforeclosure Leads Behind County Data Deep Dive Sept 2024
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1vmGk8l_YIcUk5awBIu_D_sp5ifT...
PS Preforeclosure Leads Data Is Only a Third of What Is Available from County RecordsHey Kieron,
I saw your post yesterday and decided to run a quick test in Hillsborough County, FL, targeting code violations (Motivation 1) and tax-delinquent properties (Motivation 2). I used to do this manually in my first year in the business, and I forgot how time-consuming and repetitive it was—lol. But like you mentioned, and as I already know, if it’s hard, most people will skip over it.
I attempted to call five people who met those criteria—four didn’t answer, but one did, and they were actually interested in selling. They had just received a code violation notice, were tax-delinquent for 2024, and after doing some quick research on PropWire, I saw that it was also a failed listing.
So with that being said, thanks for the tip! If I'm going to scale this, the best approach would be to hire a VA, scrub the county records, get the data in a skip-trace format, and then either call or send direct mail. Would you suggest I add lis pendens to the mix? I don’t have experience with pre-foreclosures/foreclosures—am I missing out if I skip these
- Specialist · United Kingdom · Member since 2024 · 53 posts · 7 votes1y1 in 5 interested and 4 didnt answer! Thats going at the top of my profile! People are happy with thousands of calls and a handful of appointments.
Quote from @Joshua Alcantara:
Quote from @Kieron Osullivan:
links to the studies I done to prove PS data is behind by 2wks and only 1/3 what is provided by county records. Please download to get full functionality. If you open it is a lot harder to navigate.
Any issues with links please contact me
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1RNXH3mBgJLq-uJRHJ6nH9OPVZFg...
PS Preforeclosure Leads Behind County Data Deep Dive Sept 2024
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1vmGk8l_YIcUk5awBIu_D_sp5ifT...
PS Preforeclosure Leads Data Is Only a Third of What Is Available from County RecordsHey Kieron,
I saw your post yesterday and decided to run a quick test in Hillsborough County, FL, targeting code violations (Motivation 1) and tax-delinquent properties (Motivation 2). I used to do this manually in my first year in the business, and I forgot how time-consuming and repetitive it was—lol. But like you mentioned, and as I already know, if it’s hard, most people will skip over it.
I attempted to call five people who met those criteria—four didn’t answer, but one did, and they were actually interested in selling. They had just received a code violation notice, were tax-delinquent for 2024, and after doing some quick research on PropWire, I saw that it was also a failed listing.
So with that being said, thanks for the tip! If I'm going to scale this, the best approach would be to hire a VA, scrub the county records, get the data in a skip-trace format, and then either call or send direct mail. Would you suggest I add lis pendens to the mix? I don’t have experience with pre-foreclosures/foreclosures—am I missing out if I skip these
So yeah, motivation stacking definitely works. It's a common-sense approach. Why focus on people with only one layer of pressure on them? More layers = more pressure, which means they need your help. Get in there early, build rapport, and solve their problems.
Yes, downsides are its draining doing it manually and theres a limit on how many are available but you can outsource the boring and expand to other areas.Your willing to do the caling also thats a big +.
Yes either way is how you scale and outsource. Im obviously going to say automation is better than manual VA's. Where are you looking only Hillsbororugh or? - Wholesaler · Marysville, WA · Member since 2023 · 12 posts · 6 votes1y
Quote from @Kieron Osullivan:
1 in 5 interested and 4 didnt answer! Thats going at the top of my profile! People are happy with thousands of calls and a handful of appointments.Quote from @Joshua Alcantara:
Quote from @Kieron Osullivan:
links to the studies I done to prove PS data is behind by 2wks and only 1/3 what is provided by county records. Please download to get full functionality. If you open it is a lot harder to navigate.
Any issues with links please contact me
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1RNXH3mBgJLq-uJRHJ6nH9OPVZFg...
PS Preforeclosure Leads Behind County Data Deep Dive Sept 2024
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1vmGk8l_YIcUk5awBIu_D_sp5ifT...
PS Preforeclosure Leads Data Is Only a Third of What Is Available from County RecordsHey Kieron,
I saw your post yesterday and decided to run a quick test in Hillsborough County, FL, targeting code violations (Motivation 1) and tax-delinquent properties (Motivation 2). I used to do this manually in my first year in the business, and I forgot how time-consuming and repetitive it was—lol. But like you mentioned, and as I already know, if it’s hard, most people will skip over it.
I attempted to call five people who met those criteria—four didn’t answer, but one did, and they were actually interested in selling. They had just received a code violation notice, were tax-delinquent for 2024, and after doing some quick research on PropWire, I saw that it was also a failed listing.
So with that being said, thanks for the tip! If I'm going to scale this, the best approach would be to hire a VA, scrub the county records, get the data in a skip-trace format, and then either call or send direct mail. Would you suggest I add lis pendens to the mix? I don’t have experience with pre-foreclosures/foreclosures—am I missing out if I skip these
So yeah, motivation stacking definitely works. It's a common-sense approach. Why focus on people with only one layer of pressure on them? More layers = more pressure, which means they need your help. Get in there early, build rapport, and solve their problems.
Yes, downsides are its draining doing it manually and theres a limit on how many are available but you can outsource the boring and expand to other areas.Your willing to do the caling also thats a big +.
Yes either way is how you scale and outsource. Im obviously going to say automation is better than manual VA's. Where are you looking only Hillsbororugh or?
I've posted a data management role on OnlineJobs.ph to outsource data-related tasks. While automation would be ideal, it's not my area of expertise. My goal is to build a strong lead generation system in the Tampa Bay area, focusing on Pinellas and Pasco counties, and expand to surrounding areas to offset limited initial data.
However, I've faced challenges accessing certain records in Washington state due to legal restrictions, and am currently struggling to obtain probate data remotely in Florida. Getting those leads will be banger deals. and I know because Ive closed probate deals in the past - Specialist · United Kingdom · Member since 2024 · 53 posts · 7 votes1y
Quote from @Joshua Alcantara:
Quote from @Kieron Osullivan:
1 in 5 interested and 4 didnt answer! Thats going at the top of my profile! People are happy with thousands of calls and a handful of appointments.Quote from @Joshua Alcantara:
Quote from @Kieron Osullivan:
links to the studies I done to prove PS data is behind by 2wks and only 1/3 what is provided by county records. Please download to get full functionality. If you open it is a lot harder to navigate.
Any issues with links please contact me
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1RNXH3mBgJLq-uJRHJ6nH9OPVZFg...
PS Preforeclosure Leads Behind County Data Deep Dive Sept 2024
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1vmGk8l_YIcUk5awBIu_D_sp5ifT...
PS Preforeclosure Leads Data Is Only a Third of What Is Available from County RecordsHey Kieron,
I saw your post yesterday and decided to run a quick test in Hillsborough County, FL, targeting code violations (Motivation 1) and tax-delinquent properties (Motivation 2). I used to do this manually in my first year in the business, and I forgot how time-consuming and repetitive it was—lol. But like you mentioned, and as I already know, if it’s hard, most people will skip over it.
I attempted to call five people who met those criteria—four didn’t answer, but one did, and they were actually interested in selling. They had just received a code violation notice, were tax-delinquent for 2024, and after doing some quick research on PropWire, I saw that it was also a failed listing.
So with that being said, thanks for the tip! If I'm going to scale this, the best approach would be to hire a VA, scrub the county records, get the data in a skip-trace format, and then either call or send direct mail. Would you suggest I add lis pendens to the mix? I don’t have experience with pre-foreclosures/foreclosures—am I missing out if I skip these
So yeah, motivation stacking definitely works. It's a common-sense approach. Why focus on people with only one layer of pressure on them? More layers = more pressure, which means they need your help. Get in there early, build rapport, and solve their problems.
Yes, downsides are its draining doing it manually and theres a limit on how many are available but you can outsource the boring and expand to other areas.Your willing to do the caling also thats a big +.
Yes either way is how you scale and outsource. Im obviously going to say automation is better than manual VA's. Where are you looking only Hillsbororugh or?
I've posted a data management role on OnlineJobs.ph to outsource data-related tasks. While automation would be ideal, it's not my area of expertise. My goal is to build a strong lead generation system in the Tampa Bay area, focusing on Pinellas and Pasco counties, and expand to surrounding areas to offset limited initial data.
However, I've faced challenges accessing certain records in Washington state due to legal restrictions, and am currently struggling to obtain probate data remotely in Florida. Getting those leads will be banger deals. and I know because Ive closed probate deals in the pastAutomation is cheaper than VAs.
I will DM you the probate data you are not getting from Hils with contacts of beneficiaries(heirs), petitioners and decedents as a sample.
Hills Clerk has blocked everything. Its the same across FL but you can get it from other places.
"However, I've faced challenges accessing certain records in Washington state due to legal restrictions,"
What are the challenges and what counties? - Wholesaler · Marysville, WA · Member since 2023 · 12 posts · 6 votes1y
Quote from @Kieron Osullivan:
Quote from @Joshua Alcantara:
Quote from @Kieron Osullivan:
1 in 5 interested and 4 didnt answer! Thats going at the top of my profile! People are happy with thousands of calls and a handful of appointments.Quote from @Joshua Alcantara:
Quote from @Kieron Osullivan:
links to the studies I done to prove PS data is behind by 2wks and only 1/3 what is provided by county records. Please download to get full functionality. If you open it is a lot harder to navigate.
Any issues with links please contact me
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1RNXH3mBgJLq-uJRHJ6nH9OPVZFg...
PS Preforeclosure Leads Behind County Data Deep Dive Sept 2024
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1vmGk8l_YIcUk5awBIu_D_sp5ifT...
PS Preforeclosure Leads Data Is Only a Third of What Is Available from County RecordsHey Kieron,
I saw your post yesterday and decided to run a quick test in Hillsborough County, FL, targeting code violations (Motivation 1) and tax-delinquent properties (Motivation 2). I used to do this manually in my first year in the business, and I forgot how time-consuming and repetitive it was—lol. But like you mentioned, and as I already know, if it’s hard, most people will skip over it.
I attempted to call five people who met those criteria—four didn’t answer, but one did, and they were actually interested in selling. They had just received a code violation notice, were tax-delinquent for 2024, and after doing some quick research on PropWire, I saw that it was also a failed listing.
So with that being said, thanks for the tip! If I'm going to scale this, the best approach would be to hire a VA, scrub the county records, get the data in a skip-trace format, and then either call or send direct mail. Would you suggest I add lis pendens to the mix? I don’t have experience with pre-foreclosures/foreclosures—am I missing out if I skip these
So yeah, motivation stacking definitely works. It's a common-sense approach. Why focus on people with only one layer of pressure on them? More layers = more pressure, which means they need your help. Get in there early, build rapport, and solve their problems.
Yes, downsides are its draining doing it manually and theres a limit on how many are available but you can outsource the boring and expand to other areas.Your willing to do the caling also thats a big +.
Yes either way is how you scale and outsource. Im obviously going to say automation is better than manual VA's. Where are you looking only Hillsbororugh or?
I've posted a data management role on OnlineJobs.ph to outsource data-related tasks. While automation would be ideal, it's not my area of expertise. My goal is to build a strong lead generation system in the Tampa Bay area, focusing on Pinellas and Pasco counties, and expand to surrounding areas to offset limited initial data.
However, I've faced challenges accessing certain records in Washington state due to legal restrictions, and am currently struggling to obtain probate data remotely in Florida. Getting those leads will be banger deals. and I know because Ive closed probate deals in the pastAutomation is cheaper than VAs.
I will DM you the probate data you are not getting from Hils with contacts of beneficiaries(heirs), petitioners and decedents as a sample.
Hills Clerk has blocked everything. Its the same across FL but you can get it from other places.
"However, I've faced challenges accessing certain records in Washington state due to legal restrictions,"
What are the challenges and what counties?
I haven't received your DM. Any suggestions on how to automate those tasks? I just interviewed some VA's today and if I can automate without hiring that would save me time and money.
I'm having issues with finding probate records, in Snohomish County. - Specialist · United Kingdom · Member since 2024 · 53 posts · 7 votes1yIm working on it now you.
Quote from @Joshua Alcantara:
Quote from @Kieron Osullivan:
Quote from @Joshua Alcantara:
Quote from @Kieron Osullivan:
1 in 5 interested and 4 didnt answer! Thats going at the top of my profile! People are happy with thousands of calls and a handful of appointments.Quote from @Joshua Alcantara:
Quote from @Kieron Osullivan:
links to the studies I done to prove PS data is behind by 2wks and only 1/3 what is provided by county records. Please download to get full functionality. If you open it is a lot harder to navigate.
Any issues with links please contact me
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1RNXH3mBgJLq-uJRHJ6nH9OPVZFg...
PS Preforeclosure Leads Behind County Data Deep Dive Sept 2024
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1vmGk8l_YIcUk5awBIu_D_sp5ifT...
PS Preforeclosure Leads Data Is Only a Third of What Is Available from County RecordsHey Kieron,
I saw your post yesterday and decided to run a quick test in Hillsborough County, FL, targeting code violations (Motivation 1) and tax-delinquent properties (Motivation 2). I used to do this manually in my first year in the business, and I forgot how time-consuming and repetitive it was—lol. But like you mentioned, and as I already know, if it’s hard, most people will skip over it.
I attempted to call five people who met those criteria—four didn’t answer, but one did, and they were actually interested in selling. They had just received a code violation notice, were tax-delinquent for 2024, and after doing some quick research on PropWire, I saw that it was also a failed listing.
So with that being said, thanks for the tip! If I'm going to scale this, the best approach would be to hire a VA, scrub the county records, get the data in a skip-trace format, and then either call or send direct mail. Would you suggest I add lis pendens to the mix? I don’t have experience with pre-foreclosures/foreclosures—am I missing out if I skip these
So yeah, motivation stacking definitely works. It's a common-sense approach. Why focus on people with only one layer of pressure on them? More layers = more pressure, which means they need your help. Get in there early, build rapport, and solve their problems.
Yes, downsides are its draining doing it manually and theres a limit on how many are available but you can outsource the boring and expand to other areas.Your willing to do the caling also thats a big +.
Yes either way is how you scale and outsource. Im obviously going to say automation is better than manual VA's. Where are you looking only Hillsbororugh or?
I've posted a data management role on OnlineJobs.ph to outsource data-related tasks. While automation would be ideal, it's not my area of expertise. My goal is to build a strong lead generation system in the Tampa Bay area, focusing on Pinellas and Pasco counties, and expand to surrounding areas to offset limited initial data.
However, I've faced challenges accessing certain records in Washington state due to legal restrictions, and am currently struggling to obtain probate data remotely in Florida. Getting those leads will be banger deals. and I know because Ive closed probate deals in the pastAutomation is cheaper than VAs.
I will DM you the probate data you are not getting from Hils with contacts of beneficiaries(heirs), petitioners and decedents as a sample.
Hills Clerk has blocked everything. Its the same across FL but you can get it from other places.
"However, I've faced challenges accessing certain records in Washington state due to legal restrictions,"
What are the challenges and what counties?
I haven't received your DM. Any suggestions on how to automate those tasks? I just interviewed some VA's today and if I can automate without hiring that would save me time and money.
I'm having issues with finding probate records, in Snohomish County.
What info do you want obviously beneficiary, decedent , petitioner
all numbers/most recent numbers, or?
current address of all past addresses of all?
How far back do yuo want me to go back a wk or a day or?
You want all summary admin above 1k, formal probate, ancilliary probate cases? Any where a property is available? Which is the 3 I just mentioned?
- 1yJoel BongcoBusiness MemberInvestor · Honolulu HI & Los Angeles, CA · Member since 2018 · 375 posts · 181 votes
Aloha @Joshua Alcantara - another option would be going after pre-probate leads using PropStream or PropertyRadar. The criteria for these leads is when an affidavit of death is issued due to the death of a title owner. The pre-probate process allows you to identify a property before the probate process has begun. This enables you to speak with a family member who may be motivated to sell but hasn't yet made a final decision.
- Specialist · United Kingdom · Member since 2024 · 53 posts · 7 votes1y
go DM if you like
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