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All Forum Posts by: Joshua Alcantara

Joshua Alcantara has started 3 posts and replied 11 times.

Post: Finding Sellers with Messy Titles in Real Estate Wholesaling

Joshua AlcantaraPosted
  • Wholesaler
  • Marysville, WA
  • Posts 11
  • Votes 6
Quote from @Kieron Osullivan:
Quote from @Joshua Alcantara:
Quote from @Kieron Osullivan:
Quote from @Joshua Alcantara:
Quote from @Kieron Osullivan:

links to the studies I done to prove PS data is behind by 2wks and only 1/3 what is provided by county records. Please download to get full functionality. If you open it is a lot harder to navigate.
Any issues with links please contact me

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1RNXH3mBgJLq-uJRHJ6nH9OPVZFg...
PS Preforeclosure Leads Behind County Data Deep Dive Sept 2024

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1vmGk8l_YIcUk5awBIu_D_sp5ifT...
PS Preforeclosure Leads Data Is Only a Third of What Is Available from County Records



Hey Kieron,

I saw your post yesterday and decided to run a quick test in Hillsborough County, FL, targeting code violations (Motivation 1) and tax-delinquent properties (Motivation 2). I used to do this manually in my first year in the business, and I forgot how time-consuming and repetitive it was—lol. But like you mentioned, and as I already know, if it’s hard, most people will skip over it.

I attempted to call five people who met those criteria—four didn’t answer, but one did, and they were actually interested in selling. They had just received a code violation notice, were tax-delinquent for 2024, and after doing some quick research on PropWire, I saw that it was also a failed listing.

So with that being said, thanks for the tip! If I'm going to scale this, the best approach would be to hire a VA, scrub the county records, get the data in a skip-trace format, and then either call or send direct mail. Would you suggest I add lis pendens to the mix? I don’t have experience with pre-foreclosures/foreclosures—am I missing out if I skip these

1 in 5 interested and 4 didnt answer! Thats going at the top of my profile! People are happy with thousands of calls and a handful of appointments.

So yeah, motivation stacking definitely works. It's a common-sense approach. Why focus on people with only one layer of pressure on them? More layers = more pressure, which means they need your help. Get in there early, build rapport, and solve their problems.

Yes, downsides are its draining doing it manually and theres a limit on how many are available but you can outsource the boring and expand to other areas.Your willing to do the caling also thats a big +.


Yes either way is how you scale and outsource. Im obviously going to say automation is better than manual VA's. Where are you looking only Hillsbororugh or?

I've posted a data management role on OnlineJobs.ph to outsource data-related tasks. While automation would be ideal, it's not my area of expertise. My goal is to build a strong lead generation system in the Tampa Bay area, focusing on Pinellas and Pasco counties, and expand to surrounding areas to offset limited initial data.

However, I've faced challenges accessing certain records in Washington state due to legal restrictions, and am currently struggling to obtain probate data remotely in Florida. Getting those leads will be banger deals. and I know because Ive closed probate deals in the past

Automation is cheaper than VAs.

I will DM you the probate data you are not getting from Hils with contacts of beneficiaries(heirs), petitioners and decedents as a sample. 

Hills Clerk has blocked everything. Its the same across FL but you can get it from other places.

"However, I've faced challenges accessing certain records in Washington state due to legal restrictions,"

What are the challenges and what counties?


I haven't received your DM. Any suggestions on how to automate those tasks? I just interviewed some VA's today and if I can automate without hiring that would save me time and money.

I'm having issues with finding probate records, in Snohomish County.

Post: Finding Sellers with Messy Titles in Real Estate Wholesaling

Joshua AlcantaraPosted
  • Wholesaler
  • Marysville, WA
  • Posts 11
  • Votes 6
Quote from @Kieron Osullivan:
Quote from @Joshua Alcantara:
Quote from @Kieron Osullivan:

links to the studies I done to prove PS data is behind by 2wks and only 1/3 what is provided by county records. Please download to get full functionality. If you open it is a lot harder to navigate.
Any issues with links please contact me

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1RNXH3mBgJLq-uJRHJ6nH9OPVZFg...
PS Preforeclosure Leads Behind County Data Deep Dive Sept 2024

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1vmGk8l_YIcUk5awBIu_D_sp5ifT...
PS Preforeclosure Leads Data Is Only a Third of What Is Available from County Records



Hey Kieron,

I saw your post yesterday and decided to run a quick test in Hillsborough County, FL, targeting code violations (Motivation 1) and tax-delinquent properties (Motivation 2). I used to do this manually in my first year in the business, and I forgot how time-consuming and repetitive it was—lol. But like you mentioned, and as I already know, if it’s hard, most people will skip over it.

I attempted to call five people who met those criteria—four didn’t answer, but one did, and they were actually interested in selling. They had just received a code violation notice, were tax-delinquent for 2024, and after doing some quick research on PropWire, I saw that it was also a failed listing.

So with that being said, thanks for the tip! If I'm going to scale this, the best approach would be to hire a VA, scrub the county records, get the data in a skip-trace format, and then either call or send direct mail. Would you suggest I add lis pendens to the mix? I don’t have experience with pre-foreclosures/foreclosures—am I missing out if I skip these

1 in 5 interested and 4 didnt answer! Thats going at the top of my profile! People are happy with thousands of calls and a handful of appointments.

So yeah, motivation stacking definitely works. It's a common-sense approach. Why focus on people with only one layer of pressure on them? More layers = more pressure, which means they need your help. Get in there early, build rapport, and solve their problems.

Yes, downsides are its draining doing it manually and theres a limit on how many are available but you can outsource the boring and expand to other areas.Your willing to do the caling also thats a big +.


Yes either way is how you scale and outsource. Im obviously going to say automation is better than manual VA's. Where are you looking only Hillsbororugh or?

I've posted a data management role on OnlineJobs.ph to outsource data-related tasks. While automation would be ideal, it's not my area of expertise. My goal is to build a strong lead generation system in the Tampa Bay area, focusing on Pinellas and Pasco counties, and expand to surrounding areas to offset limited initial data.

However, I've faced challenges accessing certain records in Washington state due to legal restrictions, and am currently struggling to obtain probate data remotely in Florida. Getting those leads will be banger deals. and I know because Ive closed probate deals in the past

Post: Finding Sellers with Messy Titles in Real Estate Wholesaling

Joshua AlcantaraPosted
  • Wholesaler
  • Marysville, WA
  • Posts 11
  • Votes 6
Quote from @Kieron Osullivan:

links to the studies I done to prove PS data is behind by 2wks and only 1/3 what is provided by county records. Please download to get full functionality. If you open it is a lot harder to navigate.
Any issues with links please contact me

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1RNXH3mBgJLq-uJRHJ6nH9OPVZFg...
PS Preforeclosure Leads Behind County Data Deep Dive Sept 2024

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1vmGk8l_YIcUk5awBIu_D_sp5ifT...
PS Preforeclosure Leads Data Is Only a Third of What Is Available from County Records



Hey Kieron,

I saw your post yesterday and decided to run a quick test in Hillsborough County, FL, targeting code violations (Motivation 1) and tax-delinquent properties (Motivation 2). I used to do this manually in my first year in the business, and I forgot how time-consuming and repetitive it was—lol. But like you mentioned, and as I already know, if it’s hard, most people will skip over it.

I attempted to call five people who met those criteria—four didn’t answer, but one did, and they were actually interested in selling. They had just received a code violation notice, were tax-delinquent for 2024, and after doing some quick research on PropWire, I saw that it was also a failed listing.

So with that being said, thanks for the tip! If I'm going to scale this, the best approach would be to hire a VA, scrub the county records, get the data in a skip-trace format, and then either call or send direct mail. Would you suggest I add lis pendens to the mix? I don’t have experience with pre-foreclosures/foreclosures—am I missing out if I skip these

Post: Finding Sellers with Messy Titles in Real Estate Wholesaling

Joshua AlcantaraPosted
  • Wholesaler
  • Marysville, WA
  • Posts 11
  • Votes 6
Quote from @Matt Devincenzo:

There was a member on here a decade ago that focused on these type of deals...K. Marie Poe...her account is deactivated, but a search may turn up some of her info if you search the name and someone mentioned her in their replies. The other is Rick H (https://www.biggerpockets.com/users/rtpg1) he's also commented on quite a few title issue/ AP/messy deal threads over the years and has quite a bit of experience.

Thanks, Matt, for the resources! I’ll definitely take a look—appreciate it, brother.

Post: Finding Sellers with Messy Titles in Real Estate Wholesaling

Joshua AlcantaraPosted
  • Wholesaler
  • Marysville, WA
  • Posts 11
  • Votes 6
Quote from @Peter Walther:

I've found many properties with title issues wind up with unpaid property taxes so checking on delinquent taxes, tax deed sales and lands available for taxes might help you identify some.

Thanks, Peter, for the info!

I’m going to take a look and see if I can pull a tax delinquent list for the areas where I’m looking to do deals.

Happy Friday

Post: Finding Sellers with Messy Titles in Real Estate Wholesaling

Joshua AlcantaraPosted
  • Wholesaler
  • Marysville, WA
  • Posts 11
  • Votes 6
Quote from @Joel Bongco:
Quote from @Joshua Alcantara:

I’m looking to move out of the current "red ocean" of real estate wholesaling and focus on helping sellers with problematic titles, such as liens, divorce issues, probate, quitclaim deeds, etc.

All my previous high-value assignment fees came from working with sellers who inherited properties without a proper deed. In those cases, the title company guided us on the necessary steps to resolve the title issues, and we did whatever was required to close the deal. However, I haven’t closed on those types of deals in a while. I’m not focused on volume, but rather on maximizing the assignment fee per deal, compared to doing multiple smaller deals to achieve the same result.

My question is: Where can I find sellers with messy titles? I’m in the Greater Seattle area—would paid ads work for this niche?


Aloha Joshua,  I deal with clouded/messy titles often and it's not my first choice as its froth with a lot of time, costs and risks.  The patterns that I often see are the following  1. Pre-foreclosure - homeowners are desperate to avoid foreclosure and they quitclaim deed the title to some XYZ organization , person, or to a lawyer that specializes in foreclosure defense. Regrettably the end up with a greater mess.  2. Probate - is good - however the more heirs the greater the possibility of a contested probate.  There is typically one or more heir that feel he or she deserves more then all the other heirs because the took care of auntie or uncle and  hires an attorney to contest the probate.  Thus more time, money and risk.  3.  Divorce - its easier if the house is in the divorce decree otherwise you need to play mediator between parties to come to an agreement.  Clouded titles are often uninsurable from a title insurance perspective.  To clear it, you often have to do an expungement or a quiet title action via a lawyer which gets expensive quickly.   If you are looking for messy titles -  just following the Notice of Defaults, Affidavit of Death, Pre-Probate,  Divorce Decrees  on PropertyRadar or Propstream. 

Thanks, Joel, for the information!

I’m definitely going to take a look at those on PropStream and PropertyRadar. I love doing these types of deals—not only because most people avoid them, but also because it’s rewarding to help sellers in these situations. The big assignment fee is just a bonus!

Thank you again, Joel, for sharing such helpful information!

Post: Finding Sellers with Messy Titles in Real Estate Wholesaling

Joshua AlcantaraPosted
  • Wholesaler
  • Marysville, WA
  • Posts 11
  • Votes 6

I’m looking to move out of the current "red ocean" of real estate wholesaling and focus on helping sellers with problematic titles, such as liens, divorce issues, probate, quitclaim deeds, etc.

All my previous high-value assignment fees came from working with sellers who inherited properties without a proper deed. In those cases, the title company guided us on the necessary steps to resolve the title issues, and we did whatever was required to close the deal. However, I haven’t closed on those types of deals in a while. I’m not focused on volume, but rather on maximizing the assignment fee per deal, compared to doing multiple smaller deals to achieve the same result.

My question is: Where can I find sellers with messy titles? I’m in the Greater Seattle area—would paid ads work for this niche?

Quote from @April Patterson:

Good morning, Josh. I am a Realtor in your area. I see you are based in Snohomish. Do you have any interest in coming north? I would love to connect to talk about the opportunities in Skagit and Island County. 


 Hey April! As of this moment, I don't have any plans to head north. If I were it would just to wholesale some properties.But happy to connect sometime. 

Quote from @Jerrod Rosen:

Happy Wednesday and welcome to BiggerPockets! I love the goal and hope you're able to reach it. 

Thank you! Happy to be a part of BP!

Happy Wednesday! My name is Josh, and I'm a wholesaler based in Snohomish County. I primarily wholesale land virtually and have successfully closed nine deals since August 2023. My goal is to close one land deal and one single-family home deal per month

I'm looking to connect with fellow wholesalers and investors within the Seattle area. Having done this business mainly on my own, it would be awesome to connect with people who share similar interests and close some deals/JV with.

Thanks!