Are mortgage delinquency rates going to increase in 2024?

Are mortgage delinquency rates going to increase in 2024?

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Hi BP friends!

I am curious to hear your thoughts on the real estate market outlook for 2024. Specifically on whether the high interest rates will lead to an increase in mortgage delinquency rates similar to what we saw during the 2008 great financial crisis.

I plotted the chart below (Figure 1) to compare Fed Funds rate to unemployment rate and mortgage delinquency rate. Between 2004 and 2007, interest rates increased from 1% to about 5%. Delinquency rates did not immediately increase, but they skyrocketed starting in 2007 and peaked in 2010 (when interest rates where back to zero). My point is that observing the 2008 GFC it seems like interest rates are a leading indicator for future delinquencies, and that delinquencies tend to lag by about 2 years.

Should we expect something similar to happen again in the current market?

The increase in interest rates follows a similar pattern as the one seen between 2004-07, however I believe that there is one major difference that makes today's market less likely to see a similar surge in delinquencies: a lower % of variable rate mortgages (Figure 2). Leading to the 2008 GFC, approximately 30-35% of mortgages had variable rate, compared to less than 5% today. If most loans locked in a fixed rate before the interest rates started increasing in 2022, they will not be impacted by rates going up. Additionally, so far the economy has shown pretty strong resilience, with historically low unemployment rates. Because of this I am not too worried about a real estate crash, although I don't exclude a correction, especially if interest rates continue to stay elevated in 2024.

Curious to hear your thoughts on this and how/if this is affecting your investment strategy.

Thanks,

Antonio

Figure 1 (source: St. Louis Fed.)

Figure 2 (source: Financial Samurai)

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Rental Property Investor · Seattle, WA · Member since 2014 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
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You must not have been around back then. NINJA loans along with adjustable rate mortgages caused the crash. Underwriting is 10 times harder now than before. The quality of the mortgages is higher. You don't have McDonalds burger flippers buying 400K houses with no money down....So your rate picture is only one part of it. It's not just adjustable rate mortgages. It's that there are far more qualified buyers since the crash as a result of the Frank Dodd Act.

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  • Rental Property Investor · Seattle, WA · Member since 2014 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
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    You must not have been around back then. NINJA loans along with adjustable rate mortgages caused the crash. Underwriting is 10 times harder now than before. The quality of the mortgages is higher. You don't have McDonalds burger flippers buying 400K houses with no money down....So your rate picture is only one part of it. It's not just adjustable rate mortgages. It's that there are far more qualified buyers since the crash as a result of the Frank Dodd Act.

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    Investor · VA · Member since 2015 · 21k+ posts · 19k+ votes
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    @Antonio Signorelli

    I agree. As someone who invest in the defaulted debt space, we are at all-time lows as it relates to delinquencies. With an expected increase in unemployment, and the significant increased and consumer goods and food, etc. more homeowners are continuing to struggle. This may not be an increase on a national level, and I expect this to occur first and more blue collar areas and those areas that had seen significant growth over last three years.

    Will we have another 2008, I do not think so. But I do anticipate the rate of delinquencies to increase.

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  • Investor · Willow Spring, NC · Member since 2009 · 5k+ posts · 3k+ votes
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    Hmmm.  I'm not buying the correlation between variable rate loans, GFC, and forward-looking defaults.

    The FNMA "New Book of Business" instituted circa 2010 (see this SEC document that mentions the term) https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/310522/0000950123110... completely revamped GSE underwriting as @Jack B pointed out. The "fog a mirror" test and other underwriting sins were purged. People applying for a mortgage actually needed a job and income. 

    Today 28% of all homes bought are mortgage free. A majority of older people (roughly 50+) buy with cash. These will have a mortgage default rate of zero. https://www.nar.realtor/blogs/economists-outlook/cash-rules?...

    Default rates through 2024, barring a catastrophic collapse in valuations, will stay low since most homes have positive equity. Note that some property classes, like coastal FL condos, may experience valuation collapse for reasons not directly related to mortgages. Rapidly escalating HOA fees, special assessments, and large insurance premium increases may contribute to substantial drop in affordability and impact valuations. Some flippers who mis-timed the market may default, but these will be a small number of properties relative to overall sales and defaults.

  • Jay HinrichsBusiness Member
    Real Estate Consultant · Summerlin, NV · Member since 2014 · 45k+ posts · 66k+ votes
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    Quote from @Chris Martin:

    Hmmm.  I'm not buying the correlation between variable rate loans, GFC, and forward-looking defaults.

    The FNMA "New Book of Business" instituted circa 2010 (see this SEC document that mentions the term) https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/310522/0000950123110... completely revamped GSE underwriting as @Jack B pointed out. The "fog a mirror" test and other underwriting sins were purged. People applying for a mortgage actually needed a job and income. 

    Today 28% of all homes bought are mortgage free. A majority of older people (roughly 50+) buy with cash. These will have a mortgage default rate of zero. https://www.nar.realtor/blogs/economists-outlook/cash-rules?...

    Default rates through 2024, barring a catastrophic collapse in valuations, will stay low since most homes have positive equity. Note that some property classes, like coastal FL condos, may experience valuation collapse for reasons not directly related to mortgages. Rapidly escalating HOA fees, special assessments, and large insurance premium increases may contribute to substantial drop in affordability and impact valuations. Some flippers who mis-timed the market may default, but these will be a small number of properties relative to overall sales and defaults.


    Along with the holders of mortgages much more willing to do long term workouts instead of just foreclosing.  And all the pre foreclosure buyers that hound those in default. Granted its defaulted but it does not turn into a court house step sale and or OREO inventory to be sold on the open market. However there will always be props that go through the full process that will never change.

    Very much agree on the FLA condo situation very scary for owners and debt holders I have to think.
  • Investor · Willow Spring, NC · Member since 2009 · 5k+ posts · 3k+ votes
    2y

    @Jay Hinrichs I agree. The GR/GFC forever changed the lending business. I've documented some of the bank pre=GFC "policies" here on BiggerPockets. (e.g. my March 16, 2019 post on a bank calling ALL HELOC loans due in 2008-2010 timeframe.) 

    We are at the front end of some very serious, sector specific, residential real estate challenges. 

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