How the acceleration of inflation will super charge the PRIME Real Estate

How the acceleration of inflation will super charge the PRIME Real Estate

AJ WongBusiness Member
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Dollars are doomed. Well maybe the fears of de-dollarization are a bit inflated (like everything else!) but more out of a lack of options than the strength of the currency. 

The harsh reality is that the United States is now $33 TRILLION is debt, at least $1T more than we were 90 or so days ago. 

Money supply is uppitty up up and that means that value of savings and buying power is going downitty down down. 

The numbers are so ridiculous I have to explain it with a bit of satire or I'll just be depressed, because it is depressing. 

I mean, if the US were a business, it would not be a very well run, I think we are seeing that on al societal & political levels. 

There is a lack of comprehensive & cohesive fiscal or monetary policy. The economic system has been bailed out so many times it is difficult to keep track of where the last crisis ended and the latest one begins. 

Most likely, when the next crash or depression occurs, it will be too late to protect your assets and financial future. 

The crash of 2008 happened as a flash flood, but the excesses were bottle necked over a long period of fiscal irresponsibility. 

By the time investors were aware of the risk, it was too late. These forums weren't around then, but I'm sure there are many of persistent investors that can share some very challenging stories about that period in US real estate investing. 

There were indications in 2007 that the market was heading for trouble, you couldn't really place the problem, but you could feel it. I felt it strongly enough that I sold my first home, for essentially break even, months before the 'crash.' It was a tough lesson, at 23 years old, on investments not working out as expected, but one that ultimately saved me a lot of frustration and cash. 

Of the 8 or so properties I've personally owned during the past few decades, not all have been 'winner's' but they've all lead to the next step in my portfolio and real estate business growth and maturation. 

I am not old enough to have experienced very high mortgage rates and inflation, but I am enough experienced in asset management to know that there is going to be a correction. Not a correction in housing prices, so much as an equilibrium to the excessive quality of life Americans and the capitalist society has enjoyed during the past century or so.

I have been fortunate enough to travel this world far and wide, to almost every continent (except Antarctica) and one thing is for sure: We enjoy a privileged life as Americans. Much of that quality has been supported by having, controlling and abusing the reserve currency that is the once almighty US Dollar. 

We export our debt. That is America's primary gross (literally) domestic product. It's 'worked' unless you count the few times the system has been failed, to be bailed out by...uh...the system? 

I'm still confused on who actually controls the money supply and who the interest is owed to? Keep in mind it's with the advent of the internet that the history of the Federal Reserve and how the current fiat system is sustained is even familiar. I remember when it was taboo or 'conspiracy' to discuss how money was magically created. It is any wonder that as the veil has been pierced, the value of those dollars has declined? 

The truth is not always pleasing. The recent downgrades on US debt are telling. They are subtly implying that the US will never pay down it's debt and that default is inevitable. It's not hyperbole. The true purchasing power of your savings is declining exponentially and the accelerator has a ways to go before it reaches the floor. 

As above, so below. There are no free lunches and the rate of decline could outpace the rate of improvement..

Rewatch any documentary on the Lehman Brother's collapse and just how closely society was to ATM's not working and you'll have a clearer understanding on just how safe, secure and accessible your cash, equities and paper 'assets' are. 

Think of it this way: In 2008 the entire financial system would have collapsed if not artificially supported. Since the intervention of the American Recovery & Reinvestment Act (Actually a brilliant Stimulus package) economic growth globally has been driven by...debt. Debt in China RE, Speculative Technology, Crypto and real estate. All borrowed at 0% and enabling all sorts of 'investments' and unprofitable companies to exist. 

The source of the majority of this capital is government backed securities, and low rate debt. This capital is 500% more expensive now and since interest rates are a tax on business(es) is essentially a tax that will be passed on to the cost of products and services. 

If you have been fortunate enough to amass a fortune during what is likely the greatest financial boom in the history of the world* then you have considerable assets under management. The majority of these assets are likely on paper, in the demonization of USD. 

As deflation of those assets become more apparent and evident, those with the most will have the most to lose. There are a few hard, tangible assets that are likely to preserve their value. Gold, silver, diamonds, art, spirits, antique vehicles and...Real Estate. Particularly premium real estate. 

This is how the affluent and royalty have preserved their wealth through the millennium, regardless of what currencies have come and gone. 

My fearless forecast: Luxury and prime investment real estate is about to boom. 

Real Estate is one of the few asset classes that large quantities of capital can be allocated aggressively, legally. There are other investments, but many have a scaling limitation or take a considerably more due diligence or discovery. Time is not a luxury that those with major assets will have as inflation intensifies. 

Imagine having $5M in liquid assets in the bank. Imagine inflation is 8% per year. Imagine a decline in the value of your cash portfolio of $1M+ in the next three years..Imagine what you could have bought with that $1M+.. Imagine this: An ocean front vacation rental in Oregon that generates $120K per year..

As the 'lower' end of the market stalls due to affordability restraints, those with the resources to acquire property, will. Luxury buyers and investors are in strong positions, as there will be less market activity to distract lenders, and bankers will have incentive to offer capital to well qualified borrowers. 

Already we are seeing Private Banking division such as Morgan Stanley offer attractive terms to client(s) to keep their capital on the books. I had a client prequalified with one of my go to lenders for a conventional purchase with 20% down. When the client contacted the asset manager for the down payment they offered a loan against his portfolio at 5+%. Instead of the banking allowing the $200K+ deposit to leave the books, they wrote him a check for $800k+ at a 5% return. Not great for my lender friend, but great for my client! 

I also recently receive a jumbo pre qual for a $2M+ purchase with 20% down at 6.875% with no points on a 5/1 ARM. That's absurd. At least 1%+ less than even the most attractive conventional purchase. There are supposedly some hoops to jump to get that program but still, it shows that the more you have, the more banks will be willing to work with you and offer terms that are attractive.

Other areas of the market that will see an upswing in demand and premium are strong cash flowing properties. Properties with proven deposits, income and consistency will be essential assets as equities decline and investors look to shift from intangible to tangible assets. 

I could be wrong, and things could go back to 'normal.' Lower interest rates, and the economy takes off, but what happens to the luxury market and the RE market then? 

What are you seeing in your luxury and multi family markets? 

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Quote from @AJ Wong:

Dollars are doomed. Well maybe the fears of de-dollarization are a bit inflated (like everything else!) but more out of a lack of options than the strength of the currency. 

The harsh reality is that the United States is now $33 TRILLION is debt, at least $1T more than we were 90 or so days ago. 

Money supply is uppitty up up and that means that value of savings and buying power is going downitty down down. 

The numbers are so ridiculous I have to explain it with a bit of satire or I'll just be depressed, because it is depressing. 

I mean, if the US were a business, it would not be a very well run, I think we are seeing that on al societal & political levels. 

There is a lack of comprehensive & cohesive fiscal or monetary policy. The economic system has been bailed out so many times it is difficult to keep track of where the last crisis ended and the latest one begins. 

Most likely, when the next crash or depression occurs, it will be too late to protect your assets and financial future. 

The crash of 2008 happened as a flash flood, but the excesses were bottle necked over a long period of fiscal irresponsibility. 

By the time investors were aware of the risk, it was too late. These forums weren't around then, but I'm sure there are many of persistent investors that can share some very challenging stories about that period in US real estate investing. 

There were indications in 2007 that the market was heading for trouble, you couldn't really place the problem, but you could feel it. I felt it strongly enough that I sold my first home, for essentially break even, months before the 'crash.' It was a tough lesson, at 23 years old, on investments not working out as expected, but one that ultimately saved me a lot of frustration and cash. 

Of the 8 or so properties I've personally owned during the past few decades, not all have been 'winner's' but they've all lead to the next step in my portfolio and real estate business growth and maturation. 

I am not old enough to have experienced very high mortgage rates and inflation, but I am enough experienced in asset management to know that there is going to be a correction. Not a correction in housing prices, so much as an equilibrium to the excessive quality of life Americans and the capitalist society has enjoyed during the past century or so.

I have been fortunate enough to travel this world far and wide, to almost every continent (except Antarctica) and one thing is for sure: We enjoy a privileged life as Americans. Much of that quality has been supported by having, controlling and abusing the reserve currency that is the once almighty US Dollar. 

We export our debt. That is America's primary gross (literally) domestic product. It's 'worked' unless you count the few times the system has been failed, to be bailed out by...uh...the system? 

I'm still confused on who actually controls the money supply and who the interest is owed to? Keep in mind it's with the advent of the internet that the history of the Federal Reserve and how the current fiat system is sustained is even familiar. I remember when it was taboo or 'conspiracy' to discuss how money was magically created. It is any wonder that as the veil has been pierced, the value of those dollars has declined? 

The truth is not always pleasing. The recent downgrades on US debt are telling. They are subtly implying that the US will never pay down it's debt and that default is inevitable. It's not hyperbole. The true purchasing power of your savings is declining exponentially and the accelerator has a ways to go before it reaches the floor. 

As above, so below. There are no free lunches and the rate of decline could outpace the rate of improvement..

Rewatch any documentary on the Lehman Brother's collapse and just how closely society was to ATM's not working and you'll have a clearer understanding on just how safe, secure and accessible your cash, equities and paper 'assets' are. 

Think of it this way: In 2008 the entire financial system would have collapsed if not artificially supported. Since the intervention of the American Recovery & Reinvestment Act (Actually a brilliant Stimulus package) economic growth globally has been driven by...debt. Debt in China RE, Speculative Technology, Crypto and real estate. All borrowed at 0% and enabling all sorts of 'investments' and unprofitable companies to exist. 

The source of the majority of this capital is government backed securities, and low rate debt. This capital is 500% more expensive now and since interest rates are a tax on business(es) is essentially a tax that will be passed on to the cost of products and services. 

If you have been fortunate enough to amass a fortune during what is likely the greatest financial boom in the history of the world* then you have considerable assets under management. The majority of these assets are likely on paper, in the demonization of USD. 

As deflation of those assets become more apparent and evident, those with the most will have the most to lose. There are a few hard, tangible assets that are likely to preserve their value. Gold, silver, diamonds, art, spirits, antique vehicles and...Real Estate. Particularly premium real estate. 

This is how the affluent and royalty have preserved their wealth through the millennium, regardless of what currencies have come and gone. 

My fearless forecast: Luxury and prime investment real estate is about to boom. 

Real Estate is one of the few asset classes that large quantities of capital can be allocated aggressively, legally. There are other investments, but many have a scaling limitation or take a considerably more due diligence or discovery. Time is not a luxury that those with major assets will have as inflation intensifies. 

Imagine having $5M in liquid assets in the bank. Imagine inflation is 8% per year. Imagine a decline in the value of your cash portfolio of $1M+ in the next three years..Imagine what you could have bought with that $1M+.. Imagine this: An ocean front vacation rental in Oregon that generates $120K per year..

As the 'lower' end of the market stalls due to affordability restraints, those with the resources to acquire property, will. Luxury buyers and investors are in strong positions, as there will be less market activity to distract lenders, and bankers will have incentive to offer capital to well qualified borrowers. 

Already we are seeing Private Banking division such as Morgan Stanley offer attractive terms to client(s) to keep their capital on the books. I had a client prequalified with one of my go to lenders for a conventional purchase with 20% down. When the client contacted the asset manager for the down payment they offered a loan against his portfolio at 5+%. Instead of the banking allowing the $200K+ deposit to leave the books, they wrote him a check for $800k+ at a 5% return. Not great for my lender friend, but great for my client! 

I also recently receive a jumbo pre qual for a $2M+ purchase with 20% down at 6.875% with no points on a 5/1 ARM. That's absurd. At least 1%+ less than even the most attractive conventional purchase. There are supposedly some hoops to jump to get that program but still, it shows that the more you have, the more banks will be willing to work with you and offer terms that are attractive.

Other areas of the market that will see an upswing in demand and premium are strong cash flowing properties. Properties with proven deposits, income and consistency will be essential assets as equities decline and investors look to shift from intangible to tangible assets. 

I could be wrong, and things could go back to 'normal.' Lower interest rates, and the economy takes off, but what happens to the luxury market and the RE market then? 

What are you seeing in your luxury and multi family markets? 


 We are seeing the exact opposite. Luxury markets are getting hit hard and they are expected to get hit harder than the lower valued homes because of the high interest rates. in the past even when people had the cash, they were getting free money from the banks essentially. Now money is expensive the luxury 7 figure and 8 figure homes are having a very hard time moving. Now thats not to say in california areas where average is $2M those are not moving as in some locations that is entry level, but homes on the higher end of the market are very very slow. 

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  • Chris SeveneyBusiness Member
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    Quote from @AJ Wong:

    Dollars are doomed. Well maybe the fears of de-dollarization are a bit inflated (like everything else!) but more out of a lack of options than the strength of the currency. 

    The harsh reality is that the United States is now $33 TRILLION is debt, at least $1T more than we were 90 or so days ago. 

    Money supply is uppitty up up and that means that value of savings and buying power is going downitty down down. 

    The numbers are so ridiculous I have to explain it with a bit of satire or I'll just be depressed, because it is depressing. 

    I mean, if the US were a business, it would not be a very well run, I think we are seeing that on al societal & political levels. 

    There is a lack of comprehensive & cohesive fiscal or monetary policy. The economic system has been bailed out so many times it is difficult to keep track of where the last crisis ended and the latest one begins. 

    Most likely, when the next crash or depression occurs, it will be too late to protect your assets and financial future. 

    The crash of 2008 happened as a flash flood, but the excesses were bottle necked over a long period of fiscal irresponsibility. 

    By the time investors were aware of the risk, it was too late. These forums weren't around then, but I'm sure there are many of persistent investors that can share some very challenging stories about that period in US real estate investing. 

    There were indications in 2007 that the market was heading for trouble, you couldn't really place the problem, but you could feel it. I felt it strongly enough that I sold my first home, for essentially break even, months before the 'crash.' It was a tough lesson, at 23 years old, on investments not working out as expected, but one that ultimately saved me a lot of frustration and cash. 

    Of the 8 or so properties I've personally owned during the past few decades, not all have been 'winner's' but they've all lead to the next step in my portfolio and real estate business growth and maturation. 

    I am not old enough to have experienced very high mortgage rates and inflation, but I am enough experienced in asset management to know that there is going to be a correction. Not a correction in housing prices, so much as an equilibrium to the excessive quality of life Americans and the capitalist society has enjoyed during the past century or so.

    I have been fortunate enough to travel this world far and wide, to almost every continent (except Antarctica) and one thing is for sure: We enjoy a privileged life as Americans. Much of that quality has been supported by having, controlling and abusing the reserve currency that is the once almighty US Dollar. 

    We export our debt. That is America's primary gross (literally) domestic product. It's 'worked' unless you count the few times the system has been failed, to be bailed out by...uh...the system? 

    I'm still confused on who actually controls the money supply and who the interest is owed to? Keep in mind it's with the advent of the internet that the history of the Federal Reserve and how the current fiat system is sustained is even familiar. I remember when it was taboo or 'conspiracy' to discuss how money was magically created. It is any wonder that as the veil has been pierced, the value of those dollars has declined? 

    The truth is not always pleasing. The recent downgrades on US debt are telling. They are subtly implying that the US will never pay down it's debt and that default is inevitable. It's not hyperbole. The true purchasing power of your savings is declining exponentially and the accelerator has a ways to go before it reaches the floor. 

    As above, so below. There are no free lunches and the rate of decline could outpace the rate of improvement..

    Rewatch any documentary on the Lehman Brother's collapse and just how closely society was to ATM's not working and you'll have a clearer understanding on just how safe, secure and accessible your cash, equities and paper 'assets' are. 

    Think of it this way: In 2008 the entire financial system would have collapsed if not artificially supported. Since the intervention of the American Recovery & Reinvestment Act (Actually a brilliant Stimulus package) economic growth globally has been driven by...debt. Debt in China RE, Speculative Technology, Crypto and real estate. All borrowed at 0% and enabling all sorts of 'investments' and unprofitable companies to exist. 

    The source of the majority of this capital is government backed securities, and low rate debt. This capital is 500% more expensive now and since interest rates are a tax on business(es) is essentially a tax that will be passed on to the cost of products and services. 

    If you have been fortunate enough to amass a fortune during what is likely the greatest financial boom in the history of the world* then you have considerable assets under management. The majority of these assets are likely on paper, in the demonization of USD. 

    As deflation of those assets become more apparent and evident, those with the most will have the most to lose. There are a few hard, tangible assets that are likely to preserve their value. Gold, silver, diamonds, art, spirits, antique vehicles and...Real Estate. Particularly premium real estate. 

    This is how the affluent and royalty have preserved their wealth through the millennium, regardless of what currencies have come and gone. 

    My fearless forecast: Luxury and prime investment real estate is about to boom. 

    Real Estate is one of the few asset classes that large quantities of capital can be allocated aggressively, legally. There are other investments, but many have a scaling limitation or take a considerably more due diligence or discovery. Time is not a luxury that those with major assets will have as inflation intensifies. 

    Imagine having $5M in liquid assets in the bank. Imagine inflation is 8% per year. Imagine a decline in the value of your cash portfolio of $1M+ in the next three years..Imagine what you could have bought with that $1M+.. Imagine this: An ocean front vacation rental in Oregon that generates $120K per year..

    As the 'lower' end of the market stalls due to affordability restraints, those with the resources to acquire property, will. Luxury buyers and investors are in strong positions, as there will be less market activity to distract lenders, and bankers will have incentive to offer capital to well qualified borrowers. 

    Already we are seeing Private Banking division such as Morgan Stanley offer attractive terms to client(s) to keep their capital on the books. I had a client prequalified with one of my go to lenders for a conventional purchase with 20% down. When the client contacted the asset manager for the down payment they offered a loan against his portfolio at 5+%. Instead of the banking allowing the $200K+ deposit to leave the books, they wrote him a check for $800k+ at a 5% return. Not great for my lender friend, but great for my client! 

    I also recently receive a jumbo pre qual for a $2M+ purchase with 20% down at 6.875% with no points on a 5/1 ARM. That's absurd. At least 1%+ less than even the most attractive conventional purchase. There are supposedly some hoops to jump to get that program but still, it shows that the more you have, the more banks will be willing to work with you and offer terms that are attractive.

    Other areas of the market that will see an upswing in demand and premium are strong cash flowing properties. Properties with proven deposits, income and consistency will be essential assets as equities decline and investors look to shift from intangible to tangible assets. 

    I could be wrong, and things could go back to 'normal.' Lower interest rates, and the economy takes off, but what happens to the luxury market and the RE market then? 

    What are you seeing in your luxury and multi family markets? 


     We are seeing the exact opposite. Luxury markets are getting hit hard and they are expected to get hit harder than the lower valued homes because of the high interest rates. in the past even when people had the cash, they were getting free money from the banks essentially. Now money is expensive the luxury 7 figure and 8 figure homes are having a very hard time moving. Now thats not to say in california areas where average is $2M those are not moving as in some locations that is entry level, but homes on the higher end of the market are very very slow. 

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    Quote from @Chris Seveney:
    Quote from @AJ Wong:

    Dollars are doomed. Well maybe the fears of de-dollarization are a bit inflated (like everything else!) but more out of a lack of options than the strength of the currency. 

    The harsh reality is that the United States is now $33 TRILLION is debt, at least $1T more than we were 90 or so days ago. 

    Money supply is uppitty up up and that means that value of savings and buying power is going downitty down down. 

    The numbers are so ridiculous I have to explain it with a bit of satire or I'll just be depressed, because it is depressing. 

    I mean, if the US were a business, it would not be a very well run, I think we are seeing that on al societal & political levels. 

    There is a lack of comprehensive & cohesive fiscal or monetary policy. The economic system has been bailed out so many times it is difficult to keep track of where the last crisis ended and the latest one begins. 

    Most likely, when the next crash or depression occurs, it will be too late to protect your assets and financial future. 

    The crash of 2008 happened as a flash flood, but the excesses were bottle necked over a long period of fiscal irresponsibility. 

    By the time investors were aware of the risk, it was too late. These forums weren't around then, but I'm sure there are many of persistent investors that can share some very challenging stories about that period in US real estate investing. 

    There were indications in 2007 that the market was heading for trouble, you couldn't really place the problem, but you could feel it. I felt it strongly enough that I sold my first home, for essentially break even, months before the 'crash.' It was a tough lesson, at 23 years old, on investments not working out as expected, but one that ultimately saved me a lot of frustration and cash. 

    Of the 8 or so properties I've personally owned during the past few decades, not all have been 'winner's' but they've all lead to the next step in my portfolio and real estate business growth and maturation. 

    I am not old enough to have experienced very high mortgage rates and inflation, but I am enough experienced in asset management to know that there is going to be a correction. Not a correction in housing prices, so much as an equilibrium to the excessive quality of life Americans and the capitalist society has enjoyed during the past century or so.

    I have been fortunate enough to travel this world far and wide, to almost every continent (except Antarctica) and one thing is for sure: We enjoy a privileged life as Americans. Much of that quality has been supported by having, controlling and abusing the reserve currency that is the once almighty US Dollar. 

    We export our debt. That is America's primary gross (literally) domestic product. It's 'worked' unless you count the few times the system has been failed, to be bailed out by...uh...the system? 

    I'm still confused on who actually controls the money supply and who the interest is owed to? Keep in mind it's with the advent of the internet that the history of the Federal Reserve and how the current fiat system is sustained is even familiar. I remember when it was taboo or 'conspiracy' to discuss how money was magically created. It is any wonder that as the veil has been pierced, the value of those dollars has declined? 

    The truth is not always pleasing. The recent downgrades on US debt are telling. They are subtly implying that the US will never pay down it's debt and that default is inevitable. It's not hyperbole. The true purchasing power of your savings is declining exponentially and the accelerator has a ways to go before it reaches the floor. 

    As above, so below. There are no free lunches and the rate of decline could outpace the rate of improvement..

    Rewatch any documentary on the Lehman Brother's collapse and just how closely society was to ATM's not working and you'll have a clearer understanding on just how safe, secure and accessible your cash, equities and paper 'assets' are. 

    Think of it this way: In 2008 the entire financial system would have collapsed if not artificially supported. Since the intervention of the American Recovery & Reinvestment Act (Actually a brilliant Stimulus package) economic growth globally has been driven by...debt. Debt in China RE, Speculative Technology, Crypto and real estate. All borrowed at 0% and enabling all sorts of 'investments' and unprofitable companies to exist. 

    The source of the majority of this capital is government backed securities, and low rate debt. This capital is 500% more expensive now and since interest rates are a tax on business(es) is essentially a tax that will be passed on to the cost of products and services. 

    If you have been fortunate enough to amass a fortune during what is likely the greatest financial boom in the history of the world* then you have considerable assets under management. The majority of these assets are likely on paper, in the demonization of USD. 

    As deflation of those assets become more apparent and evident, those with the most will have the most to lose. There are a few hard, tangible assets that are likely to preserve their value. Gold, silver, diamonds, art, spirits, antique vehicles and...Real Estate. Particularly premium real estate. 

    This is how the affluent and royalty have preserved their wealth through the millennium, regardless of what currencies have come and gone. 

    My fearless forecast: Luxury and prime investment real estate is about to boom. 

    Real Estate is one of the few asset classes that large quantities of capital can be allocated aggressively, legally. There are other investments, but many have a scaling limitation or take a considerably more due diligence or discovery. Time is not a luxury that those with major assets will have as inflation intensifies. 

    Imagine having $5M in liquid assets in the bank. Imagine inflation is 8% per year. Imagine a decline in the value of your cash portfolio of $1M+ in the next three years..Imagine what you could have bought with that $1M+.. Imagine this: An ocean front vacation rental in Oregon that generates $120K per year..

    As the 'lower' end of the market stalls due to affordability restraints, those with the resources to acquire property, will. Luxury buyers and investors are in strong positions, as there will be less market activity to distract lenders, and bankers will have incentive to offer capital to well qualified borrowers. 

    Already we are seeing Private Banking division such as Morgan Stanley offer attractive terms to client(s) to keep their capital on the books. I had a client prequalified with one of my go to lenders for a conventional purchase with 20% down. When the client contacted the asset manager for the down payment they offered a loan against his portfolio at 5+%. Instead of the banking allowing the $200K+ deposit to leave the books, they wrote him a check for $800k+ at a 5% return. Not great for my lender friend, but great for my client! 

    I also recently receive a jumbo pre qual for a $2M+ purchase with 20% down at 6.875% with no points on a 5/1 ARM. That's absurd. At least 1%+ less than even the most attractive conventional purchase. There are supposedly some hoops to jump to get that program but still, it shows that the more you have, the more banks will be willing to work with you and offer terms that are attractive.

    Other areas of the market that will see an upswing in demand and premium are strong cash flowing properties. Properties with proven deposits, income and consistency will be essential assets as equities decline and investors look to shift from intangible to tangible assets. 

    I could be wrong, and things could go back to 'normal.' Lower interest rates, and the economy takes off, but what happens to the luxury market and the RE market then? 

    What are you seeing in your luxury and multi family markets? 


     We are seeing the exact opposite. Luxury markets are getting hit hard and they are expected to get hit harder than the lower valued homes because of the high interest rates. in the past even when people had the cash, they were getting free money from the banks essentially. Now money is expensive the luxury 7 figure and 8 figure homes are having a very hard time moving. Now thats not to say in california areas where average is $2M those are not moving as in some locations that is entry level, but homes on the higher end of the market are very very slow. 


    We're primarily focused on second homes and investment properties on the coast and have never seen stronger demand in our costal markets. I think there will be a shift if energy prices continue their current direction as inflation is a lagging indicator. It might take time for investors to realize the purchasing power of their savings and capital is declining more rapidly. 

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  • Realtor · Boulder, CO · Member since 2016 · 3k+ posts · 5k+ votes
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    Great post! Here in Boulder we’ve got 11 months of inventory in the $3-5M category (luxury market for us), which is a lot more than we’ve had in years, and higher DOM to go with it. However in the very upper-end, things are still moving fast and we’re seeing record-setting sales and a lot more sales in the teens than we’ve ever had before. The entry-level market (basically under $1M here), is still red hot and probably always will be because it’s a desirable market with high barrier to entry. This market is kind of an anomaly though: lots of cash buyers, always strong demand, limited supply, and players with deep pockets that aren’t as affected by interest rates. Most buyers here are simply paying cash or getting margin loans on their investment accounts at lower rates than traditional mortgage rates.  

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    Quote from @Steve K.:

    Great post! Here in Boulder we’ve got 11 months of inventory in the $3-5M category (luxury market for us), which is a lot more than we’ve had in years, and higher DOM to go with it. However in the very upper-end, things are still moving fast and we’re seeing record-setting sales and a lot more sales in the teens than we’ve ever had before. The entry-level market (basically under $1M here), is still red hot and probably always will be because it’s a desirable market with high barrier to entry. This market is kind of an anomaly though: lots of cash buyers, always strong demand, limited supply, and players with deep pockets that aren’t as affected by interest rates. Most buyers here are simply paying cash or getting margin loans on their investment accounts at lower rates than traditional mortgage rates.  

     Folk in higher end, do not receive their income through regular W2. So our stock market is still doing okay so far, when they receive sustainable income from Wall Street/market ; interest rate doesn't matter much.

    Think about it, there are 15K employees of Nvidia currently, they are now instant millionaire. Lets say 15K of those are still not having house.
    They are looking for luxury market, in market there's only 7 luxury home to sell. Now guess who would purchase those 7 luxury homes.


    Interest rate actually matters only to FTHB and GenZ, but on different level of income, the purchasers are owning income from different level altogether.

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