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Roman Stefaniw
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Canadian Bigger Pockets Members?

Roman Stefaniw
  • Edmonton, Alberta
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Hello, looking to add some Canadian BP members or join to some groups. Im new to real estate and as useful as BP is Canada has different guidelines laws to follow. I won't be annoying and message you constantly I promise! Any help is appreciated, thank you!  

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Brianne H.
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Brianne H.
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@Roman Stefaniw The new rules taking effect are for those with 20% down or more having to pass a "stress test", which is not only qualifying for the mortgage at the actual interest rate, but needing to qualify for it at the posted rate (which for a 5 yr fixed is I think 4.99% right now). Last year the same stress test was applied for borrowers with less than 20% down, so really they've just extended it - HOWEVER, in theory that only applies to federally regulated banks, which if you go through a provincially regulated credit union, in theory they are not obligated to follow the rule. Whether they do or not is up to them. 

Word of advice though if you're looking at taking a mortgage you see yourself paying out or refinancing - go with a variable mortgage, as the payout penalty is usually only 3 months of interest. On our first flip I didn't know that and had a 5 year fixed, and got hit with an interest rate differential penalty - $7200! I'm currently getting a mortgage on a different property, and if I went through Scotia with their 5 year fixed, if I paid it out in the next 4 years, the penalty varies between $11,800 - $12,750. So be very clear on your prepayment penalty fees before you sign your life away. They can still do ports but with restrictions, and then they'll give you a blended rate, and the 2 mortgage components don't ever come due at the same time, and it's messy. Generally do not recommend, though I did it on one property and the lender gave me back my prepayment fee in full from the property it was ported from. 

If you're doing a BRRR, as far as I'm aware you can get up to 80% LTV. I am currently doing a refinance and they have told me as long as I have 20% equity in it, I can take out as much as I want.

CMHC/Genworth need to be owner occupied and they do charge quite a bit for the premium (I think about 4% but I could be mistaken, haven't had to use it in a while). So it can easily add $10k+ to your numbers, but if the alternative is being able to get into real estate or not, then it could very well be worth it for you. 

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