Ringless VoiceDrops, Automated SMS, Voice Broadcasting who's in?
Flipper/Rehabber · Fresno, CA · Member since 2018 · 6 posts · 3 votes
Hello Everyone
My names Alan and Ive been a wholesaler for 6 years and now a Marketing Director/ Lead Acquisitions manager. I'd like this post to be primarily about Ringless Voice Drop and other technology that's out now. Who's using it and what type of success have you had?
#1. What type of list are you using and what type of volume are you sending voicemails, voice broadcast or sms.
#2 What website are you using and why? compared prices? better technology? or easy to use?
#3. Have you experimented with different scripts? which scripts have had the best luck (response rate)
#4. What other types of marketing are you incorporating along with this new technology?
Any and all comments and experiences are welcome. I have a list of providers and pricing were ready to take action this next week. Comment and lets share some much needed info!!!
Hello Everyone
My names Alan and Ive been a wholesaler for 6 years and now a Marketing Director/ Lead Acquisitions manager. I'd like this post to be primarily about Ringless Voice Drop and other technology that's out now. Who's using it and what type of success have you had?
#1. What type of list are you using and what type of volume are you sending voicemails, voice broadcast or sms.
#2 What website are you using and why? compared prices? better technology? or easy to use?
#3. Have you experimented with different scripts? which scripts have had the best luck (response rate)
#4. What other types of marketing are you incorporating along with this new technology?
Any and all comments and experiences are welcome. I have a list of providers and pricing were ready to take action this next week. Comment and lets share some much needed info!!!
Good Morning Alan.
As a guy who owns a phone company which can send VoiceBlasts, RVMs, Emails, SMS and MMS messages we should all be aware that sending SMS and MMS, either Longcode or shortcode, without the expressed permission of the recipient is a violation of the law.
Sending Robo calls aka VoiceBlasts is also unless you adhere to the opt out requirements.
RVMs is in a grey area from a legal perspective since technically one cant answer the call however that isnt 100% accurate. A RVM is a series of 2 calls being sent within a fraction of a second apart. The first call grabs the phone line and the second call goes to voicemail and then the first call hangs up. Average drop connect is only 70% which isnt bad.
Anyone telling you different are covering up the truth and youll notice most of these companies are out side of the USA so they arent governed by the Feds.
All this said one can stay within the rules and be very productive.
The larger issue is telephone number/email | property address mining. I can grab 60% of the cell numbers attached to a property address and 25% of email addresses. With the amount of data collection available you would think it would be higher however it isnt.
All of these reasons is why I highly recommend that one use these tools as follow up and not first contact.
Heck I can live call someone and if i hear their voicemail click a button and leave a pre-recorded message on their phone and go to the next call which makes cold calling so much easier.
As for scripts, they're like the message on postcards. Full of trigger words and quick to the punch.
BP doesnt let me state which company I own which is weird when someone asks this type of question...
Just be careful using these products legally...
Happy House Hunting
Alan as someone NOT in this area but not a huge fan of the incoming junk calls -
I'd suggest you include some discussion on how not to annoy people too much!
Hey @Alan Ramirez To respond to you #4 point. Pairing RVM with direct mail is a really good combination. I would be happy to chat about this strategy more if you would like. Feel free to message me. Cheers!
Hello Everyone
My names Alan and Ive been a wholesaler for 6 years and now a Marketing Director/ Lead Acquisitions manager. I'd like this post to be primarily about Ringless Voice Drop and other technology that's out now. Who's using it and what type of success have you had?
#1. What type of list are you using and what type of volume are you sending voicemails, voice broadcast or sms.
#2 What website are you using and why? compared prices? better technology? or easy to use?
#3. Have you experimented with different scripts? which scripts have had the best luck (response rate)
#4. What other types of marketing are you incorporating along with this new technology?
Any and all comments and experiences are welcome. I have a list of providers and pricing were ready to take action this next week. Comment and lets share some much needed info!!!
Good Morning Alan.
As a guy who owns a phone company which can send VoiceBlasts, RVMs, Emails, SMS and MMS messages we should all be aware that sending SMS and MMS, either Longcode or shortcode, without the expressed permission of the recipient is a violation of the law.
Sending Robo calls aka VoiceBlasts is also unless you adhere to the opt out requirements.
RVMs is in a grey area from a legal perspective since technically one cant answer the call however that isnt 100% accurate. A RVM is a series of 2 calls being sent within a fraction of a second apart. The first call grabs the phone line and the second call goes to voicemail and then the first call hangs up. Average drop connect is only 70% which isnt bad.
Anyone telling you different are covering up the truth and youll notice most of these companies are out side of the USA so they arent governed by the Feds.
All this said one can stay within the rules and be very productive.
The larger issue is telephone number/email | property address mining. I can grab 60% of the cell numbers attached to a property address and 25% of email addresses. With the amount of data collection available you would think it would be higher however it isnt.
All of these reasons is why I highly recommend that one use these tools as follow up and not first contact.
Heck I can live call someone and if i hear their voicemail click a button and leave a pre-recorded message on their phone and go to the next call which makes cold calling so much easier.
As for scripts, they're like the message on postcards. Full of trigger words and quick to the punch.
BP doesnt let me state which company I own which is weird when someone asks this type of question...
Just be careful using these products legally...
Happy House Hunting
For telemarketing and spam text messages that advertise a product or service, the requirement is that the sender obtains written consent (either physical or electronic).
Even if you are not selling anything, it’s helpful to have an opt out message in your text messages to a new number within the first ten days of reaching out to them.
I use something like:
“Miriam! We are still buying houses in your area. Have you considered selling 2134 Highland Ave? Type HELP to learn more.“
When they type HELP it shows our link and the STOP option to remove them from our list.
All of my messages are individually sent and there is nothing bulk or automated about their construction.
When they send STOP at any time my service Twilio immediately puts them on a do not send list for that number until they send a START message.
The fine is $500 per text you send after they ask you stop sending messages within a 10 day compliance window. The receiver and the receivers lawyer get paid the $500.
My political clients do not have to check with “Do Not Call” registry because they are exempt from this rule. The exemptions also include companies that are not trying to sell anything like survey companies. Also if your list is less than 2000 people (commercial enterprise rule) than you have some leeway with the courts as well. Regardless of exemptions you must stop sending messages once the receiver requests you to stop.
@Dave Ramirez , very interesting , so from your CSV file or your XLS file , you are INSERTING their address into your sms. Is that the only way you personalize it , or do you also insert their NAME ? Are you selling your script or giving it away?
I am not trying to sh-t on anyone personally, but these are completely scumbag marketing techniques.
Just because you are desperate for deals doesnt mean you should resort to illegal methods that are normally the domain of ripoff artists like indian tech support scammers and car warranty scammers.
Pursuing these short sighted methods is good for those who think wholesalers need to have regulatory crackdowns though. Just keep spamming and irritating people and eventually the government will start paying more attention.
The system has a DB with all of the users.
I buy all of my phone numbers from list providers. It’s very easy to 1) not be on the sold list and 2) remove your number from my text list.
Every solicitation for business (tv, radio, billboards, google search, YouTube ads, the side of a bus) has more reach than my one text and you can easily block my future solicitations. The only benefit is the cost of delivery. Once I have your number I can be a good salesperson and make 7 attempts to make the sale.
@Account Closed this entire website is not for you. You don’t get it. The next time you get an email from BiggerPockets asking you to buy something remember your rant against capitalism and marketing and how wrong you are. Welcome to 2019!
The system has a DB with all of the users.
I buy all of my phone numbers from list providers. It’s very easy to 1) not be on the sold list and 2) remove your number from my text list.
Every solicitation for business (tv, radio, billboards, google search, YouTube ads, the side of a bus) has more reach than my one text and you can easily block my future solicitations. The only benefit is the cost of delivery. Once I have your number I can be a good salesperson and make 7 attempts to make the sale.
@Account Closed this entire website is not for you. You don’t get it. The next time you get an email from BiggerPockets asking you to buy something remember your rant against capitalism and marketing and how wrong you are. Welcome to 2019!
Not because it is easy to be removed does anyone reserve the right to bother me or harass me... SEVEN times?! Dude! Seriously?
It may be easy not to be on the sold list, but why would I have to do the trouble and effort NOT to be on the sold list before you nag me?
You are saying you have the right to harass me because I did not proactively put myself on the don't disturb list?
Yeah sorry Dave but that is horsepoop.
But Mr Dave.. I hate to break it to you but... those ARE desperate measures. Cold calling? pfffft... That's for people that know nothing about marketing. Beginners, amateurs. Does anyone really willingly buy numbers to and make unsolicited calls? Seriously?
Did you know...my leads COME to me without me doing a thing, all free.. without any effort, and they are highly motivated seller leads!
Hey if you want to learn from the best I will show you a thing or 2 about SEO and marketing, and without having to be mean to anyone ;)
I think you could learn a thing or 2 about real marketing!
The system has a DB with all of the users.
I buy all of my phone numbers from list providers. It’s very easy to 1) not be on the sold list and 2) remove your number from my text list.
Every solicitation for business (tv, radio, billboards, google search, YouTube ads, the side of a bus) has more reach than my one text and you can easily block my future solicitations. The only benefit is the cost of delivery. Once I have your number I can be a good salesperson and make 7 attempts to make the sale.
@Account Closed this entire website is not for you. You don’t get it. The next time you get an email from BiggerPockets asking you to buy something remember your rant against capitalism and marketing and how wrong you are. Welcome to 2019!
Thankfully 'this entire website' has a lot more than just this bottom-feeder wholesaler nitwittery.
Your comment "now that i have your number i will spam it 7 times" is so ironic and tone-deaf i almost think youre f-cking with me. If so, bravo, you gave me a chuckle.
@Account Closed no one is calling you. You can’t read. You can leave now