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Wisdom sought: really, what would be the best thing to do?
I live in SW Florida where I owe $335,000 for a house surrounded by homes forecloure specialists are enjoying profits from selling at $125,000 (in much better condition than mine), and at least another thousand brand new unoccupied homes nearby. Flood insurance just became mandatory and rates went up.
I bought in '06, it was the best I could get then, but in very poor shape compared to the quality of currently available homes. It would take another $20,000 just to make it marketable to sell for $125,000.
In '06 I had to have two loans on teacher pay, did not have enough reserves for a down payment, assumed value would continue escalating and would refinance/consolidate both loans, with increased equity in a few years, and live here another ten years, retire and go home and live in Texas in a modest, low cost home, for the rest of my life.
Disaster struck.
I modified loan 1 (SAXON) under HAMP - that one payment is 31% of my gross income - one of my 2 "take home" paychecks a month.
I modified Loan 2 ($65,000 balance) directly with OCWEN, who only gave me a reduced rate (14% TO 2%) for 5 years.
My entire 2nd paycheck is that payment, utilities, food, clothes, car, gas, credit cards, student loans, and other living expenses.
I live hand to mouth and see now that I will never be able to retire/sell this house/move home, etc.
I didn't want to get rich, but I didn't expect to pay every dime I make for the rest of my life for basic living because of what I perceive as a national financial disaster - obviously not just a "natural real estate cycle" - evolving from poor economic planning and oversight on the part of the politicians who have been paid by my taxes from my hard work for the last 35 years to assure my (at least basic) quality of life - for life.
Ethics?
It is hard to specify ethical boundaries under such extreme, outlying conditions.
I do know one thing about this crisis:
Ethcial boundaries were crossed at every stage, by many people, over many years.
The argument for the end consumer to suffer - in such an exaggerated way - in order to affirm their ethics - seems profoundly hypocritical.
On the other hand, I am still here, paying my mortgage, even though every other homeowner who purchased a home in this HOA between '05 and '08 has walked away, so I AM demonstrating ethics.
My question is, "What would you do?"
I wish I could put up a poll and ask every expert what they would do.
Walk away entirely? What then... ? Rent for life...?
Stop paying 2nd lien? What then...? Credit ruined...for how long...? What else....?
Swallow and pay every dime they earn to live a restricted (since '06: never go out, no travel, no vacations, no gift giving at holidays, drive old cars, buy used clothes, etc.) life for the next ten or fifteen years, fearing job loss or pay cut daily, only to find out at retirement that I have to walk away from it then, can't sell it, perhaps have to file bankruptcy, then, and live in government housing for my retirement...?
That seems awfully bleak.
I make too much, they say, to file bankruptcy. hmmm...what would you do?
Thanks for any wisdom you could share.
Synthia
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It sounds like you were allowed to purchase more house than what you could afford in 2006. Unfortunately many were allowed to do this at that time. Getting overextended puts you at serious risk.
You face a situation that many are facing who bought at that time. Personally I'm not a 100% sure what I would do if in your spot. One thing I would do though is seek better financial advisers going forward and try to spend more within my means, I know that this is not the American way though.
You are certainly faced with tough choices. Bankruptcy, walking away, continuing to pay.
Whatever you choose to do, I hope that you get some help with your credit issues, look for better financial advisers, life is tough without making it tougher on ourselves.