Skip to content
×
PRO
Pro Members Get Full Access!
Get off the sidelines and take action in real estate investing with BiggerPockets Pro. Our comprehensive suite of tools and resources minimize mistakes, support informed decisions, and propel you to success.
Advanced networking features
Market and Deal Finder tools
Property analysis calculators
Landlord Command Center
$0
TODAY
$69.00/month when billed monthly.
$32.50/month when billed annually.
7 day free trial. Cancel anytime
Already a Pro Member? Sign in here

Join Over 3 Million Real Estate Investors

Create a free BiggerPockets account to comment, participate, and connect with over 3 million real estate investors.
Use your real name
By signing up, you indicate that you agree to the BiggerPockets Terms & Conditions.
The community here is like my own little personal real estate army that I can depend upon to help me through ANY problems I come across.
Real Estate Deal Analysis & Advice
All Forum Categories
Followed Discussions
Followed Categories
Followed People
Followed Locations
Market News & Data
General Info
Real Estate Strategies
Landlording & Rental Properties
Real Estate Professionals
Financial, Tax, & Legal
Real Estate Classifieds
Reviews & Feedback

Updated over 17 years ago,

User Stats

13
Posts
0
Votes
Dan N
0
Votes |
13
Posts

Please help me with my analysis / plan

Dan N
Posted

Wow.. where to start. I am looking at some rental property for long-term buy and hold that is not in my hometown. Reason? Around here, its the 0.8% rule, not the 1% to 1.5% that makes the numbers work so much better.

I am having a hard time with the concept of cash-flow versus growth investing. *If* appreciation on properties in my area were > 5% per year, I would be content to break even after all expenses - this way I could invest close home, where a $150k house rents for $1250/mo. However, I hate the thought of putting my neck on the line for what is essentially gambling, without getting that nice monthly inflow that makes it all worth it.

So, I am thinking of investing in a town about 2 hours away. Its got solid demographics, low crime, average appreciation potential (nothing exciting), and a fairly solid rental market. Plus, property values aren't out of line relative to rents. I have spoken to several realtors in the area and found two important things: Renters have sufficient income to purchase a house if so inclined.. so multifamily housing is preferred for investing. Also, the cap rate on such housing is 9 to 10. SFH that cost ~$100-120K rent for $1000/mo, whereas 1-2 bed apartment units go from $400-700/mo rental.. roughly.

In my area, I wouldn't think of buying a multifamily because of several investors I know buying them in 'seedy' areas and having all kinds of tenant/drug/crime issues. Thing is, this other town is very different.. its a big small town, and there arent any 'scary' areas at all. Low income pretty much means students and families starting out.

So I have been searching, and found what I believe to be a really nice fourplex, with good fundamentals. Here are the stats.

Asking Price $169,000.00

Down Payment $0.00 0
Loan #1 $135,200.00 80 6.75% 30yr No ($876.00)
Loan #2 $33,800.00 20 8% 20yr No ($282.00)
*I would be using HELOC funds for loan #2.. 10 year draw, 20 year repayment. I am not sure how to factor in the interest deductability and if that should count towards/against the property.

Rental income total: 2045/mo (24,540/yr) - actual
Taxes: 1764/yr - current (need to check assessed value)
Gas: 2832/yr - actual
Electric(Common area only): 528/yr - actual
Water: 480/yr - actual
vacancy allowance: 5% - hypothetical
Insurance: 1000/yr - hypothetical
Maint: 400/yr - hypothetical
Trash: 480/yr - hypothetical

Plugging all this into the analysis tool, I get:

NOI: 16233
CapRate: 10%
Yield: 14%
BTCF: 2320 ($193/month)

So, a couple questions on this analysis.

1) I only put in for the 'major' expenses. What are some of the minor ones I should be looking for? Lawn mowing / snow removal comes to mind. Maybe the tenants can lift a shovel...

2) Is my mortgage rate of 6.75% for 30 year fixed on a 4-plex reasonable? I have stellar credit (>800) and make about 2.5x the average income in my area.

3) Should I or should I not use the HELOC to fund 20%? Should I pursue a traditional 2nd instead, and if so, what rate can I expect?

4) I didnt put anything in for property management. Area fees are typically 6-7%. I am hoping to save this expense. Am I being reasonable.. Can you manage a 4 plex from 2 hours away?

5) Maintenance.. I estimated at $100/unit/yr. This seems low, but the building's internals are updated. No idea if this is realistic.

So many variables.. there always are though, right? Whats the math telling me.. is this a deal, or do I need some concessions / terms / price reduction to make it work. Would you do it? Why or why not?

Part of me wants to jump all over this.. I think the best I can do near my house (<30 min) would be to buy a SFH fixer for ~120k in a semi-marginal area, put 10K into it, and get $1200-1400/mo in rent. Unless I go interest-only and put down 10% cash, I would be pretty much breakeven (using the analysis tool and assumptions). That doesn't really seem worth the effort to save a few hundred bucks on taxes.. argh. Nobody said it was easy :)

Thanks (in advance!) for the help.. some really astute minds here.

Loading replies...