House Hacking - House with ADU - FHA 203(k) Loan

House Hacking - House with ADU - FHA 203(k) Loan

Real Estate Agent 路 Los Angeles, CA 路 Member since 2018 路 2k+ posts 路 1k+ votes

Investment Info:

Small multi-family (2-4 units) buy & hold investment.

Purchase price: $520,000
Cash invested: $100,000

My wife and I bought a single family home with a detached garage. Using some of our own funds as well as the FHA 203(k), we renovated the house including an addition and converted the garage into an Accessory Dwelling Unit. Currently we are house hacking by renting out the main house and living in the ADU. Once we refinance the house the projected rents from the ADU, we anticipate cash flow (before vacancy and reserves) of about $850/month.

What made you interested in investing in this type of deal?

We really wanted a property that was a fixer and had the detached garage. This way we could add value in adding units and keeping our costs down through house hacking.

How did you find this deal and how did you negotiate it?

We found it through the MLS. We were one of 17 offers (priced artificially low for a bidding war). Because it was a fixer and knew that plans were going take time, we offered a free 30 day rent back, no home warranty needed, and offered $1,500 above any bonafide offer (knowing that it would still need to appraise). We entered escrow $68,000 above the asking price but was able to negotiate the priced down by $47,000 through inspections/using our FHA 203(k) as a reason for price reduction.

How did you finance this deal?

We used the FHA203(k) loan and had to invest some of our own money. The down payment actually came from a line of credit from my condo that had appreciated well. Effectively we did $0 down.

How did you add value to the deal?

We remodeled the home, and did a 350 square foot addition. Plus we converted the garage into an Accessory Dwelling Unit (rentable guest house).

What was the outcome?

Once the work was finished, we did an FHA Streamline Refinance, which lowered our bills by over $300/month. Currently my wife and I live in the ADU and we rent out the main house. We pay below market rents for our unit while building equity in the main house.

Lessons learned? Challenges?

At the time I was the first in our circle to do an ADU from scratch so there was a lot to learn there. The biggest challenge was the City and our lender. The City caused so many delays because they were short staffed (for example taking 10 days from when you call to come out to inspect rather than 2-3 days). The lender also took a long time to get us the checks needed to pay the contractor, which forced my contractor to have a skeleton crew rather than going full board.

Did you work with any real estate professionals (agents, lenders, etc.) that you'd recommend to others?

As an agent, I worked with my broker who was stellar. The negotiations were amazing as we ended up closing on the home for less than what our initial offer was.

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Matthew PorcaroBusiness Member
Lender 路 Long Island, NY 路 Member since 2016 路 456 posts 路 336 votes
6y

@Rick Albert

ADU's are really taking off in CA with the new zoning legislation. Glad to hear you worked one out! Congrats 馃嵕

The 203k Way
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  • Matthew PorcaroBusiness Member
    Lender 路 Long Island, NY 路 Member since 2016 路 456 posts 路 336 votes
    6y

    @Rick Albert

    ADU's are really taking off in CA with the new zoning legislation. Glad to hear you worked one out! Congrats 馃嵕

    The 203k Way
  • Real Estate Agent 路 Los Angeles, CA 路 Member since 2018 路 2k+ posts 路 1k+ votes
    6y

    @Matthew Porcaro

    Thanks! Made a lot of mistakes along the way but it all works out in the end!

  • Los Angeles 路 Member since 2020 路 88 posts 路 36 votes
    6y

    @Rick Albert congratulations on your investment. I also looking to househack in CA, with an ADU to live. Best wishes on your success.

  • Real Estate Agent 路 Los Angeles, CA 路 Member since 2018 路 2k+ posts 路 1k+ votes
    6y

    Hey Carlos,

    That鈥檚 great and I鈥檓 here to help.  Let me know if you need anything!


    Rick

  • South Los Angeles 路 Member since 2020 路 6 posts 路 1 vote
    6y

    Hi @Rick Albert, do you mind sharing how much $ the ADU portion of the 203k loan was? I'm contemplating doing what you did, also in LA, but trying to weigh doing 203k or doing it cheaper via other financing. My dilemma is I love the idea of financing it via 203k loan, but I imagine it could be cheaper if I do it more on my own (but I don't yet have the $$).

    What swayed you to finance it via 203k vs other methods? Would you do anything differently in terms of the ADU if you were to do it again? To make it cheaper? To make it better?

  • Real Estate Agent 路 Los Angeles, CA 路 Member since 2018 路 2k+ posts 路 1k+ votes
    6y

    Hey @Myles Blackwell,

    Well I was the first of in my sphere to do an ADU from scratch, so we ended up over budget on the ADU (especially because the City changed some of their guidelines). It cost us about $75,000 all in (and would cost closer to $100,000 now). We had thought we could have gotten away with $40,000, which is what was covered in the loan.

    The reason for the 203(k) loan was so that we could qualify for much more (higher debt to income limits) and at the time it was the only one I was familiar with. I definitely would have not used the bank that we picked because they were difficult to work with. There are other programs such as Home Ready that I will start digging into. The issue with the financing is even though the cost of converting the garage into an ADU is $100,000, appraisers are not giving it much more than $50,000 or so in the San Fernando Valley or about $75,000 for the Westside. This will make it difficult to identify a property that makes sense.

    Overall I'm very happy with how our ADU turned out. In terms of finishes we could have gone less expensive but the savings would not have outweighed the emotional impact that it has. When doing the ADU, we wanted it to be a mini version of the main house. This way later on if we wanted to sell the property, it could be marketed for both investment purposes or a house with a guest house. If we were to make a change and we had the money and time, I would have separated the water meter. We already made the unit all electric so we didn't have to split gas and the meters were already split. This just would have given the unit total autonomy.

    In terms of financing it versus cash, that is a personal choice. If you finance it and it costs $500 more per month on your mortgage, but you can make $1,500+/month and you get to keep your cash, then it can be worth it. I have an investor client who owns three properties with ADUs, and his highest grossing one is a property that he bought with an existing ADU. It allowed him to rent out the units immediately rather than taking the 3-4 months to do the conversion.

    Happy to chat further if you would like.

    Best,

    Rick

  • South Los Angeles 路 Member since 2020 路 6 posts 路 1 vote
    6y

    Thank you @Rick Albert! Very helpful details.

  • Real Estate Agent 路 Los Angeles, CA 路 Member since 2018 路 2k+ posts 路 1k+ votes
    6y

    @Myles Blackwell, of course! Let me know if you need referrals.

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