First purchase - update to electric heat, or see what happens?

First purchase - update to electric heat, or see what happens?

Grantsburg, WI · Member since 2017 · 3 posts · 0 votes

Hi BP Community,

First purchase in the works, closing June 29th! Found a 4-plex in residential area (population <3,000) about 45 minutes away.

Purchase Price: $92,000 (MLS)

Bank Appraisal: $99,000 (appraised "sale" value)

Mortgage: 20% Down, 5/15 ARM (self-employed, first mortgage)

Rent Roll: Full occupancy = $2,050/mo; currently = $1,630/mo (3 units with long-term tenants, studio unit vacant)

Roof: No leaks but needs shingles in 1-3 years

HVAC: One gas boiler, hydronic/radiant heat and hot water; no AC

Other: 2500 square feet. All utilities shared, no metering present. Build year 1925. City water/sewer.

PITI: $8,500 annually

Owner has always paid utilities as there is no metering in place. Books show about $5,500 annual expense there.

So conservatively we have:

Monthly Rent - ( 5% Vac + 10% CapEx + 10% Repair + Utilities + PITI ) = 2050 - (100 + 200 + 200 + 450 + 700) = $400/mo**

**does not include Property Management, paying myself or someone else 8% of rents results in cash flow of ~$230/mo

That said...

Rents are slightly below market given that utilities are included. Could probably get $2,250 with some cleaning and fresh paint, while continuing to pay all utilities.

I am considering, however, installing baseboard electric heat and sub-metering the system so tenants will pay for their usage instead. Walked through with a contractor and received a bid for $10,000, all parts/labor. I estimate this overhaul would save about $200 per month in utilities across the gas (boiler) and electricity charges. It's unlikely I would raise rents in this scenario as tenants would then be picking up their bill for heat/electricity. I would plan to pay for majority of upgrades with a line of credit.

I have a few additional reasons beyond monthly cash savings to sub-meter the electric: 

1) There is one thermostat in the house, controlled only by tenants in the largest unit. Could deter new tenants in the future.

2) The boiler needs servicing and looks heavily worn/rusted, all pipe elbows are significantly corroded on exterior.

3) Metering will make it easier to survey usage and determine equitable rent adjustments.

So...best to "save" $200 per month in utilities, paying itself off in the long run (i.e. 50 months)? Or try out the "blue sky" rent increase to earn $200 more per month?

Now, after typing this out, I've come to another option...leave the boiler in place, add in the electric heat capability/metering, and just keep the boiler chugging along at ~50 degrees year-round to ensure the structure is always "thawed". Tenants would then pay for whatever temp above 50 they like to live at. Is this a good compromise? Do I have any idea what I'm talking about?

Summary: 3 choices:

(A) leave as is, slowly increase rents to market levels (while saving for boiler explosion)

(B) overhaul electric, maintain rents

(C) best of A&B, keeping the boiler system in service and paying for some heat usage

Thoughts? Thanks for taking time to consider!

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  • Rental Property Investor · Erie, PA · Member since 2018 · 6k+ posts · 9k+ votes
    8y
    You had me on board till I saw you are stuck Paying utilities . That’s going to crush your cash flow . Are you sure this is even zoned with the city correctly ? I would tear out that archaic boiler those old terds are notorious for costing a fortune in bills . Get high efficency electric baseboard in each unit and meter out each unit . It’ll be worth the ten grand in just a few years . Best ROI you can do in this case . If you are only getting like 500 a unit and paying all utilities then you will be getting screwed . That’ll work out to like 350$ income a unit -Even in the ghetto the fourplexes do a whole lot better than that
  • Grantsburg, WI · Member since 2017 · 3 posts · 0 votes
    8y

    Thanks for the insight, Dennis.

    Any sense in leaving the boiler in service to buffer the heat, until it craps out? It's only about 8 years old (Weil-McLain) but as you've said the repairs don't justify keeping it long term.

    The property is zoned G2 Commercial. Similar properties nearby but yes, it's definitely not a traditional apartment. It was actually a nunnery back in the day so the layout was suitable for splitting off units.

  • Contractor · Oxford, MA · Member since 2018 · 807 posts · 745 votes
    8y

    No sense in leaving it, it would only turn on if the temp fell below 50*. If it is only 8 years old though, why is it in such rough shape? It should still look almost new after that short of a time. Either way, get those utilities off your expenses! I would also get a couple more estimates, electrician's pricing is all over the board

  • Grantsburg, WI · Member since 2017 · 3 posts · 0 votes
    8y

    Good point on the temp Bryan, glad to have a contractor in on the discussion.

    As far as the boiler condition, it's in the basement which gets fairly humid, inspector just made mention that some of the control panel, circuitry, components, etc look rusted and should be serviced as a precaution. Whole building is poorly ventilated, that's the first thing we'll address once under ownership.

    If it turns out my inspector was just a little too cautious (and boiler is in good shape), is it even possible to zone/sub-meter the boiler supply gas instead? I haven't found any "plug and play" meters for an already existing heating system - I imagine you'd need to monitor gas consumption, and each unit's thermostat would meter the valve. Maybe more of an overhaul than tearing it out and replacing with electric...just curious if it's ever done.

    I'll follow your suggestion and get another electrical estimate or two. Thanks again.

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