Finding A Great Deal In An Inflated Market

Finding A Great Deal In An Inflated Market

Investor · Puyallup, WA · Member since 2017 · 16 posts · 11 votes

Hello BP

I wanted to share a success story in finding a great deal in an inflated market.  I live in a state where there are tons of investors from around the country, and around the world frankly.  A lot of money comes into this area to buy up real estate.  It is very competitive and difficult in my opinion to find a property that will cash flow month after month since the prices have been driven up so much in the last year.  Many people I meet are happy to get a 6% return on a rental property and are banking on the house prices continuing to rise for their investment model.

Instead of trying to rent out the house as a whole, my plan was that I would rent out the rooms in the house.  To break it down for you, I found a large house, of 2000 square feet, 3 bed 2 bath home in a decent (but not stellar neighborhood).  The neighborhood is safe and fine, and I would consider it very safe, but it is definitely not high end.

The house actually had 4 bedrooms, even though it was listed as a 3 bedroom house.  There was a lot of extra room in this house, so with the basement, I was able to add 2 additional good sized bedrooms for the cost of $15000 approximately.  The $15,000 invested also paid for some needed touch ups to the house with flooring and paint.  Each room rents out for $600/month with one room renting out for $650 because it is larger than the rest.

Here are the numbers

Purchase Price - $195,000

Down payment (20%) - $39,000

Rehab costs - $15,000

Now the break down on the monthly cash flow

Gross Rents monthly- $3650

Monthly payment (principle, interest, taxes) - $904

Monthly expenses I incur (garbage, utilities, etc etc) - $650

Profit per month - $2096

Projected Profit per year - $25,152

Annual Rate of Return on invested money - 47% approximately

I have been very happy with it obviously.  I checked with the municipality because it classifies as a legal non conforming use of the property.  I purchased the property in February, and it took about 1 week to fill all the rooms.  I set up a clear set of house rules and guidelines and have screened all the tenants sufficiently, so there have been no issues with tenants so far.  I have found that there is a decent population of people that are looking for clean, safe, affordable housing on a month to month agreement.

Anyways, if any of you are like me, it is difficult to grind out a deal in a great market.  I found that if I am looking at these properties with a different lens, then the opportunities seem to come available.  If I were to rent this house out to an individual family, I would have been hard pressed to get a 9% return.   I love to buy, and don't find myself selling properties very often, so I am looking for properties for the long term investment.  The monthly cash flow is my goal in this real estate game.

Thanks for taking the time to read

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Real Estate Investor · Littleton, CO · Member since 2013 · 197 posts · 77 votes
9y

I like your thinking and outside the box idea!  I am from Denver and have thought about doing something similar.

How long ago did you rent out the rooms?

Is your interest rate fixed or adjustable?  Just wondering if your monthly payment can change long term.

How is your parking situation? Will you need 6 car parking.

Wondering how 3 roommates per bath will work long term, are you doing some type of schedule?  

Is it a newer house with PVC sewer line? Just thinking of the extra use the plumbing system as well.

Do you limit the number of people per room to one?  How do you handle significant others?

If you think most of these issues through up front as I am guessing you have, it should limit the tenant turnover.

Are there other issues that have arisen since you rented the rooms?  Just curious and how you handled them.

Thanks for the info and idea!

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  • Tampa, FL · Member since 2017 · 240 posts · 153 votes
    9y

    this is a clever way to play the game

  • Real Estate Investor · Littleton, CO · Member since 2013 · 197 posts · 77 votes
    9y

    I like your thinking and outside the box idea!  I am from Denver and have thought about doing something similar.

    How long ago did you rent out the rooms?

    Is your interest rate fixed or adjustable?  Just wondering if your monthly payment can change long term.

    How is your parking situation? Will you need 6 car parking.

    Wondering how 3 roommates per bath will work long term, are you doing some type of schedule?  

    Is it a newer house with PVC sewer line? Just thinking of the extra use the plumbing system as well.

    Do you limit the number of people per room to one?  How do you handle significant others?

    If you think most of these issues through up front as I am guessing you have, it should limit the tenant turnover.

    Are there other issues that have arisen since you rented the rooms?  Just curious and how you handled them.

    Thanks for the info and idea!

  • Investor · Puyallup, WA · Member since 2017 · 16 posts · 11 votes
    9y

    This house I started renting the rooms out in February.  I have other houses that I have been doing it much longer.  This is just my last deal.  My interest rate is fixed for 30 years on a conventional loan.  There is enough parking for everyone but honestly, in this house, there have only been a max of 4 people with cars at a time.  The house is close to bus lines so I do have several tenants who use public transit so they don't take up parking space.  All of the tenants are on different schedules so the bathroom situation is not a problem.  Some work swing shift, some day shift, some are retired etc etc.  It has never been a problem.  I only allow one person per room.  More than that would be a bit crazy I think.  I don't allow overnight guests in the house as well, so that cuts down on a lot of potential house drama.  My goal is to have a simple set up with no phone calls coming my way.  There are not any other issues that we haven't thought of.

  • Real Estate Investor · Littleton, CO · Member since 2013 · 197 posts · 77 votes
    9y

    Okay some other questions came to mind...

    How often do you turn over tenants?

    Do you use a unique code alarm entry system to keep track of everyone?  Easier to change codes than everyone's keys.

    How else do you streamline the management, as to not let this become a big headache?

  • Drew FeinPro Member
    Attorney · Denver, CO · Member since 2015 · 207 posts · 104 votes
    9y

    @Tony SanFilippo, FYI, in most of the Denver Metro Area, this arrangement would violate zoning ordinances by exceeding occupancy limits.  In Denver for example, only two unrelated persons may reside together unless you get a permit for a third from the city.  

  • Investor · Puyallup, WA · Member since 2017 · 16 posts · 11 votes
    9y

    I don't turn over tenants often.  They are all on a month to month agreement, so they are free to go with proper notice.  Typically, in a house like this, we will have a room turn over every 5 to 6 months.   As far as zoning goes, I have found that each municipality is different.  Some have not set up any restrictions, and others have some restrictions.  Many of them have already set out zoning parameters, like my city, and it is very easy to comply.  I have found that as long as I am a responsible and responsive landlord, the neighborhood and municipality have no problems.   I choose to invest in the areas where it is permissible.  I have several local organizations that specialize in helping people find safe, clean, affordable housing that routinely contact me for openings and require inspections in order to bring prospective tenants over.  There has never been a problem in this arena.  

  • James MaraditsPro Member
    Real Estate Broker · Cleveland, OH · Member since 2015 · 239 posts · 224 votes
    9y

    Interesting strategy!  Seems like it's quite a bit less passive than dealing with standard 1+ year lease tenants, but the profits are definitely impressive!

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