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John Nachtigall
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Do you want to play a game?

John Nachtigall
  • Santa Rosa, CA
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Hi

So I am new to REI and one of the things I am doing is just practicing analysis on loopnet listings. I am actually planning on investing with syndicates, but to educate myself I am looking at all aspects of REI. I was searching in my hometown and came across and old convent. I thought it might be a fun exercise to put it out to the community, what would you do to this property. Or would you never buy it even for a $1.

I am not all that creative, so below is my very conservative analysis of turning it into an SRO.   convert 1 of the rooms to a bathroom, so you have 7 small rooms, 1 master with a bath and 2 shared bathrooms for the 7 small rooms.   

Misc information from assessor page

http://www.co.pueblo.co.us/cgi-bin/webatrallbroker...

  • It is zoned commercial retirement home
  • It was bought from the church for $60,000 in Aug 2016, so despite the loopnet description I suspect it is not "rehabbed"
  • They really do only pay $282 in taxes a year
  • The owner is from Denver, so out of town, probably would be happy to make 10-20k for a few month hold.   I bet you could get it for 70-80, but I assumed 100 as worst case
  • Bishop Buswell, who built it, was a really cool guy, I knew him, he was a real staple of the Catholic Church.   My dad used to call him "Buzz Baby" which my Mom thought would earn all of us a front seat in hell  :-)
  • You can do a Google walkaround yourself, but I can tell you the neighborhood is poor working class, but not a crime haven.   Best description is old.
  • I assumed rents of $400 for the small rooms based on a discount from $650-1000 in the houses in the area.   I would be interested in your opinion but that is a huge discount.   You would own the bottom end of the market, even in Pueblo.
  • I bumped the master with the private bath to $500
  • Converting 1 room to a bath loses some revenue, but 8 people sharing 1 bath just seems like too much.   On the other hand your prospective tenets cant be choosers, so your decide.  
  • I tried to overestimate expenses.   For example I assume 1 of the rooms is always vacant every month.  10% for all expenses and about twice what I think you would really pay on utilities.   So in the end operational expenses were 66% of income not the normal 50% estimate.   Pueblo is actually a very inexpensive place to live so 50% is probably a good estimate, but I wanted to be conservative.   
  • 30k for renovation is way conservative especially considering the rooms have plumbing so converting 1 to a bathroom will not involve re-routing lines.
  • I also assumed a loan that was expensive based on SROs being hard to finance. But I did some research, there are FHA loans for SROs. You would find something eventually.
  • I valued the final property at an 8% cap.   Maybe I should have put a 10% cap, but that does not matter to cashflow analysis.   You are not buying this property for appreciation.  

Conclusion

  • It actually cashflows.   I was shocked, even with all the conservative assumptions.   
  • If you estimate expenses at 50% of income, it goes up to 20k NOI and a COC return of 35% (WOW). Actually buy it for 70-80 k and you are talking an immense return.
  • I think the biggest unknown is can you run it as an SRO.   The zoning is commercial retirement, so if all the tenets are over 55 I think you fit into the existing zoning without any change.   Thought?

But I am a rank amateur.   I know you all can do better.   Tell me what you would do with it.

Or, is a property in poor area of a tertiary market doomed to sit forever.   It seems like 1 of the rules that people keep repeating is "buy in upcoming markets".    This is a stable, but poor neighborhood.   It was always this way, and I don't see it changing ever.  

Convent Conversion
  
901 E Evans Ave  
Pueblo CO, 81004  

  
Purchase Price100000 
After Repair Value167,000 
Closing Costs5000 
Estimated Repair30000 
Down Payment20000 
Loan Info80,000 @ 5%, 2 points, 25 years
  
  
7 small 4002800
1 master500500
Total Income 3300
  
Operation Expenses  
Vacancy (12%)400 
CapEx (10%)330 
Water200 
Insurance200 
Repairs (10%)330 
Electricity200 
Garbage200 
Management (10%)330 
Total2190 
  
Loan467.67 
  
Total Expense2657.67 
Total Cash Needed56,600 
NOI13,368 
COC ROI13.70% 
Final Cap Rate8% 
Monthly Cashflow646.33 

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Sam Dangremond
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Sam Dangremond
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  • Pueblo, CO
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"I assumed rents of $400 for the small rooms based on a discount from $650-1000"

I own a 2/1 SFH three blocks down from this property, non-rehabbed I get $445/month.

So $400 for a single room in a group home sounds high. 

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