Have an offer in for first deal, what do you guys think?

Have an offer in for first deal, what do you guys think?

New York City, NY · Member since 2016 · 16 posts · 4 votes

Hey guys - so I just put an offer in on a property and wanted to get people's advice. 

The house is a brick 1,100 sf 3/1 built in 1997 that has gotten full replacement of roof, HVAC and major mechanicals, flooring, etc. all in the last 5 years. House is in a neighborhood zoned for "good" township schools in a major midwest market (Indianapolis). Should rent for $900-$1,000 and I offered $70k. List was $80k and seller came back at $76.5k. Just responded with $72k and willing to pay up to $74-$75k if pushed. 

I'm modeling a rent of $925. As far as expenses, taxes are $1,700 per annum, I'm figuring $600 for annual insurance and I will be hiring a property manager and likely paying 10% annually. Assuming another $150 per annum for R&M + cap ex (I think this is likely conservative given all the recent capital invested), monthly unlevered cash flow should be ~$490. With an 80% mortgage at 4.25% and 30 year am, levered net cash flow should be $200 per month. Cap rate is ~8% and levered cash on cash return is ~16%. Not assuming any appreciation or rent growth. 

While I can earn higher returns in worse neighborhoods, I like the solid 8% cap rate investment here given good neighborhood, good schools, house less than 20 years old and most big ticket items already taken care of. I have looked at a wide range of deals in various places on risk/return spectrum and I think this deal is considerably less risky than most I have seen and still a good cash on cash yield plus good experience for a new investor. 

I have looked in a number of markets and my experience has generally been that to get a 9-10% cap rate type of property, you need to venture into worse areas with worse schools or buy $40k homes that will have constant repairs, etc. I think this deal strikes a nice balance and I will likely be more risk averse just for my first few. 

Anyway, I'm interested to hear what you all think and if you know of a market where deals like this are plentiful or that better deals for similar risk profiles exist, please PM me and perhaps we can work together!

Thanks

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  • Spring, TX · Member since 2016 · 70 posts · 13 votes
    10y

    Deal sounds good, i would rather prefer the nicer neighborhood and schools over the bad. To me I believe i would get a better investment in the nicer neighborhood. I would most likely get a better Tenant who will treat my property right, as well as stay longer because of the area and schools compared to the bad area. Of course this isnt always true but to me im more comfortable taking the loss on cashflow for the better neighborhood

  • New York City, NY · Member since 2016 · 16 posts · 4 votes
    10y

    Thanks for the thoughts Anthony. I tend to agree with you. Better tenant demographic, less wear and tear, etc. I love having roof and HVAC recently replaced so I don't have to worry about looming threat of that down the road. 

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