Two single family homes on one parcel in Columbus, Ohio

Two single family homes on one parcel in Columbus, Ohio

Columbus, OH · Member since 2014 · 3 posts · 1 vote

Hi! I am looking at my first deal and would love some feedback as I have stumbled onto an odd situation which could have some potential, but seems a little too good to be true. I am a total newbie and need some advice!

Property: Two single family homes on one lot, 3/1 in front and 1/1 in rear. Both properties are currently 100% livable and have been fixed up to an average level. We are planning to install new kitchens, fix up bathrooms, etc over time. Popular central neighborhood.

Goal: Would like to live in the big house and rent out the small house. Long term plan being to sell or keep both as rentals as they have been rented consistently for 5+ years (big house) and 15+ years (little house).

Asking price: $225k. We were able to look at it before it went on the market and the seller is giving us the first option to buy. There is a line of people after us who are interested once it goes up.

Rental rate: Big house - $1700 when tenants moved out 2 months ago, little house - $500 (current, hasn't raised rent in 15 years) to $900-1000 (average for neighborhood)

Sales comps: I looked on Zillow/Redfin at recently sold houses in the neighborhood and it looks like similar 3/1s are selling for $200-225k. I can't find any 1/1 comps that are SFH, only condos, which are $80-100k.

Financing: Because the property is nonconforming, we can only get a portfolio loan of 3/1, 5/1, or 7/1 ARM with 20% down. The only way to get it to conform is to solve...

The water problem: Both are on one water/sewer line, so new lines would need to be run ($15-20k rough estimate) to split the property, which we would need to do to refinance to two separate 30-year fixed mortgages or to sell the houses separately.

Options, as far as I can tell:

  • Buy and hold with ARM and pay adjustable rate
    A bad idea?
  • Buy with ARM and try to sell as-is to another investor within 3-5-7 years
    Might be a tough sell w/ the issues we've found
  • Buy with ARM, run sewer lines, split property, and refi both w/ 30 year fixed to rent or sell
    Will I make enough money renting one/both to make it worth it? Can I even sell a 1/1 with no garage on half a lot? No comps that I can find
  • Buy with ARM, knock down 1/1 house, leaving conforming 3/1 to refi w/ 30 year fixed
    Don't want to do this, but trying to think outside the box here...
  • Don't buy it
    This is sounding like the best idea now...

I like both houses and can see some potential but this is getting pretty complicated. What am I missing? Any feedback would be greatly appreciated!

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  • Professional · Carlsbad, CA · Member since 2012 · 12k+ posts · 1k+ votes
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    @Jen A.

    Welcome to Bigger Pockets. Consider sending messages to other members which is my favorite part of the website.

  • John HornerPro Member
    Flipper/Rehabber · Columbus, OH · Member since 2013 · 1k+ posts · 655 votes
    11y

    These rental rates would not justify the purchase price for me, especially due to the fact that you have to put all that money into running new sewer and splitting the parcels before you could resell as 2.  1/1 are not very desirable.

    You'd be all in at $230k and renting at $2500 on the high end.  This is barely 1% which usually won't cash flow.

    Just my opinion.  I only invest in Columbus, PM me with more specifics!

  • Severna Park, MD · Member since 2013 · 7k+ posts · 7k+ votes
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    Forget the sewer line and water line . You then have the subdivision to do .  My second home was similar to what you are looking at . I had the same problem with financing . So the second lender basically told me , If there is a stove or oven its a house , If there is no stove or oven its a kids playhouse , or a man cave .      That  $ 500 a month is 6K approx against your expenses , in 10 years thats 60k  without a rent increase .   

  • Investor · Madison, CT · Member since 2014 · 710 posts · 458 votes
    11y

    I'm with @John Horner on this one. While 1% rent to price can work in some markets, you're ROI is actually lower than it would be on a normal 1% rule property, because you're putting cash up to fix the water problem. I think you're onto something with option 5 (Don't buy it).

  • Columbus, OH · Member since 2014 · 3 posts · 1 vote
    11y

    Thanks, everyone. Glad my gut feeling and rough calculations were headed in the right direction. I wonder if I would be able to get a normal mortgage on it if the seller removed the kitchen from the small house? Maybe that's a question for once it's been on the market for 6 months. Thanks again!

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