[Calc Review] Ocala FL new build dilemma - what to do?

[Calc Review] Ocala FL new build dilemma - what to do?

Rental Property Investor · St Louis, MO · Member since 2010 · 317 posts · 72 votes

I have a new build in Ocala, FL for $245K with a non-refundable deposit of 10% that was signed in October 2021. 3/2, 1357 square feet, 2-car garage. It’s expected to be ready to close in December 2022. The model looks like this, please check this link. Notice the asking price for the new ones is around $265K - $270K, more than mine. I can’t imagine anyone that would buy at that price at today’s rates.

Rents are expected to be $1650 - $1750. Insurance is around $700/year. Taxes, should be around $4K/year.

I started shopping for rates in early September, and then I was getting mid 6s. As I kept shopping around until now (October 2022), I am getting 7s, 8s, and now some as high as 9.5% for fixed rate 30-year DSCR loans. I am not eligible for a QM loan. I fear this will only get worse in the coming weeks.

By my calculations using 9.25%, 4% vacancy / repairs monthly, 10% property management, I’d be negative cash flowing at least $300 per month, and that’s after 25% down, not 20%. These are with the 5-year prepayment penalty too.

I already own one home built and managed by this same builder and am very happy with it. They are built and managed well, so that’s one plus. I don’t expect much difficulty in the way of renting it, dealing with repairs, etc. And the appreciation has been and should be decent going forward. 

I am at a loss as for what to do. Bridge loan? Interest only loan? Turn it into a short-term rental? Buy it, then sell it just to break even? Just tough out the next couple of years and refinance? Negotiate with the builder? 

I am happy to share my spreadsheet too.

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  • Drew SygitBusiness Member
    Property Manager · Royal Oak, MI · Member since 2012 · 13k+ posts · 9k+ votes
    4y

    Are you selling all your stock investments now that their values are dropping?

    Probably not.

    So, why should you bail on your real estate investment?

    The 5 year prepay is something to evaluate though. If rates fall in 2-3 years, you'll want to refinance, but the penalty will hurt. Of course, no one knows when rates will fall again:(

  • Real Estate Agent · Chicago, IL · Member since 2017 · 2k+ posts · 2k+ votes
    4y

    Sell it. Market is still hot and believe it or not vast majority of buyers do not care about cashflow %. I would sell anything that doesn't cashflow to those buyers. Or eat the costs for a bit while it appreciates/rent grows as FL is a solid market. 

  • Stephanie P.Pro Member
    Washington, DC Mortgage Lender/Broker · Member since 2016 · 4k+ posts · 2k+ votes
    4y
    Quote from @Paul Winka:

    I have a new build in Ocala, FL for $245K with a non-refundable deposit of 10% that was signed in October 2021. 3/2, 1357 square feet, 2-car garage. It’s expected to be ready to close in December 2022. The model looks like this, please check this link. Notice the asking price for the new ones is around $265K - $270K, more than mine. I can’t imagine anyone that would buy at that price at today’s rates.

    Rents are expected to be $1650 - $1750. Insurance is around $700/year. Taxes, should be around $4K/year.

    I started shopping for rates in early September, and then I was getting mid 6s. As I kept shopping around until now (October 2022), I am getting 7s, 8s, and now some as high as 9.5% for fixed rate 30-year DSCR loans. I am not eligible for a QM loan. I fear this will only get worse in the coming weeks.

    By my calculations using 9.25%, 4% vacancy / repairs monthly, 10% property management, I’d be negative cash flowing at least $300 per month, and that’s after 25% down, not 20%. These are with the 5-year prepayment penalty too.

    I already own one home built and managed by this same builder and am very happy with it. They are built and managed well, so that’s one plus. I don’t expect much difficulty in the way of renting it, dealing with repairs, etc. And the appreciation has been and should be decent going forward. 

    I am at a loss as for what to do. Bridge loan? Interest only loan? Turn it into a short-term rental? Buy it, then sell it just to break even? Just tough out the next couple of years and refinance? Negotiate with the builder? 

    I am happy to share my spreadsheet too.

    View report

    *This link comes directly from our calculators, based on information input by the member who posted.


     Since your deposit is non-refundable, buy the property with an interest only loan with NO PREPAY and then resell it.  You'll make boatload of money instead of losing your deposit.  Do the same with the other 5 properties that you have deposits on.  Don't worry about the rate so much as the prepay since you're going to sell it.  Call Tom.  He has that product.  I think you spoke to him yesterday.

  • Michael MimsPro Member
    Contractor · Ocala, FL · Member since 2014 · 31 posts · 14 votes
    3y

    Hi,

    The issue with reselling is the selling costs. If you sell the home for 265k with 6% commission plus closing costs you are going to net around 243k. 

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