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Updated about 11 years ago, 11/19/2013

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Brad S.
  • Cincinnati, OH
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1st offer-4 family check

Brad S.
  • Cincinnati, OH
Posted

I'm looking to make my first offer and need some help checking my numbers. It's a brick 4-family (2-1bed, 2-2bed) in a lower income, but decent/low crime neighborhood on a street with other 4-families. The property is vacant so there is no actual expenses available.

Numbers:

  • Asking price: $50,000
  • Repairs/Upgrades: $20,000 (needs driveway, HVAC repair, water heaters and possibly kitchen/bath upgrades)
  • Monthly gross rents: $2,130
  • Expenses: $1,476 (69% - seems high but breakout below)
  • Income after expenses: $654
  • Mortgage payment (25% down): $282
  • Monthly cashflow: $372

Monthly expense detail

  • Taxes: $383
  • Insurance: $62.50 (estimate)
  • Property management: $213 (looking to self manage though)
  • Vacancy: $191.70 (9% assumed)
  • Utilities: $150 (SWAG estimate owner pays water/sewer)
  • Maintenance: $213 (10% assumed)
  • Cap Reserves: $213 (10% assumed)
  • Grounds keeping: $50 (SWAG estimate-mowing & snow removal)

Besides input on whether this makes sense, I have a couple of specific questions:

1) I can never hit the 50% rule when I run the numbers. Do you include vacancy rate when calculating? I'm I being to conservative on my maintenance and cap reserves (10% each)?

2) How much should I factor for grounds keeping (Ohio) and water/sewer?

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