Skip to content
×
Try PRO Free Today!
BiggerPockets Pro offers you a comprehensive suite of tools and resources
Market and Deal Finder Tools
Deal Analysis Calculators
Property Management Software
Exclusive discounts to Home Depot, RentRedi, and more
$0
7 days free
$828/yr or $69/mo when billed monthly.
$390/yr or $32.5/mo when billed annually.
7 days free. Cancel anytime.
Already a Pro Member? Sign in here

Join Over 3 Million Real Estate Investors

Create a free BiggerPockets account to comment, participate, and connect with over 3 million real estate investors.
Use your real name
By signing up, you indicate that you agree to the BiggerPockets Terms & Conditions.
The community here is like my own little personal real estate army that I can depend upon to help me through ANY problems I come across.
BRRRR - Buy, Rehab, Rent, Refinance, Repeat
All Forum Categories
Followed Discussions
Followed Categories
Followed People
Followed Locations
Market News & Data
General Info
Real Estate Strategies
Landlording & Rental Properties
Real Estate Professionals
Financial, Tax, & Legal
Real Estate Classifieds
Reviews & Feedback

Updated over 3 years ago on . Most recent reply

User Stats

3
Posts
1
Votes

BRRRR deal advice using hard money

David Shamataylo
Posted

Hello everyone, I'm a new investor based out of Puyallup WA. I would like to see if I can get some advice on a BRRRR deal I will be closing on soon. Here are the numbers:

Purchase price: $350k

Rehab cost (2009 build, 1300 sq ft, cosmetic rehab only): $20k 

HM lender costs (points and interest, holding 1-2 months): Roughly $10k 

Refinance costs: roughly $10k 

Total cost: $390k. 

ARV: $430k - $450k.

So my 2 exit strategies are either flip with a profit of $50k-$70k, or refi into a rental. Already have an investor friendly lender that can do 75% and 80% LTV (with slightly higher rate).

My mortgage lender said I can only refi and pay off the HM loan itself but I cannot get my 10% HM down payment out because thats considered a cash out and you have to wait 6 months to pull cash out plus a $4k refi cost again. Even if at 75-80% LTV, I can pay off the hard money AND pull out my down payment, its not allowed.

So my questions are, how do the numbers look and did i miss anything? 

At 80% LTV I can pay the HM loan completely and just be in with my 10% HM down payment.

Is this what everyone does with their hard money BRRRR deals? Leave their HM down payment in the deal and refi a second time later on to recoup their HM down payment?

Thanks! And if anyone needs recommendation in WA for hard money lender, investor friendly mortgage lender, or real estate agent, I can provide. 

Loading replies...