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Adam Ulery
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Deal Analysis sanity check

Adam Ulery
  • Investor
  • Safety Harbor, FL
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Hi Florida BP'ers! I am a new investor who is very motivated to get my first buy and hold property. I'm getting frustrated because I can't find properties that meet my deal requirements. I have been using Brandon's investor analysis spreadsheet to analyze lots of deals that I find on CL (Craigslist), Redfin, Zillow, and from a couple of real estate agents. By the time I subtract expenses, I'm having trouble cashflowing anything above $50/mo. My target is $200. Because I'm inexperienced, I'm doubting my analysis. Can I get some validation from experienced investors?

I'm using rentometer and Zillow to project rent rate. 

I'm subtracting 40% of monthly rent for vacancy, maintenance, capex and property management 

I'm also subtracting mortgage, insurance and taxes. 

Insurance quotes here in FL are coming in around $200/month for a basic 3/1 1100sq/ft house. Seems expensive! Taxes is also expensive, around $170/mo for the same 3/1 house - I'm using the county property appraiser website for this. 

Given this information, does it sound like I'm doing anything incorrectly? Any advice? 

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Jeff Copeland
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Jeff Copeland
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Market Rent

Zillow and Rent-o-Meter are useful screening tools, but are not gospel. You should look at actual rental comps to determine market rent (and keep in mind rents are appreciating quickly, and you're looking at comps 6-12 months in arrears). Typical SFR rentals in St Pete are in the $1.00 to $1.25 per sq ft range and climbing.

Insurance Costs

Insurance is expensive (and you definitely want to avoid flood zones unless you're getting into high-end waterfront properties), but those rates do sound high...PM me and I'll be happy to refer you to an insurance agent who has helped many of my clients. Insurance costs are difficult to estimate without an actual quote from an agent, as there are many variables (both with the property and the policy) that impact the premium.

Taxes

Instead of using last year's taxes, one formula you can use (Purchase Price x .85) x .024. In other words, 2.4% of 85% of the purchase price (from http://www.pcpao.org/estimate_taxes.html). The assessed value will "reset" at the new purchase price, and your taxes can change dramatically from the previous years (this is especially true if you are buying from an owner occupant with a homestead exemption and save-our-homes cap).

Gone are the days of buying a turnkey rental operating at a 10-cap. A rapidly appreciating market is a tricky time to buy rental properties, as rents are slower to respond to sales price increases, causing cap rate compression.

That being said - it is still possible to purchase at a much lower cap rate, but then increase the cap rate with improved management (i.e. decrease expenses and raise rents).

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