Skip to content
×
Try PRO Free Today!
BiggerPockets Pro offers you a comprehensive suite of tools and resources
Market and Deal Finder Tools
Deal Analysis Calculators
Property Management Software
Exclusive discounts to Home Depot, RentRedi, and more
$0
7 days free
$828/yr or $69/mo when billed monthly.
$390/yr or $32.5/mo when billed annually.
7 days free. Cancel anytime.
Already a Pro Member? Sign in here

Join Over 3 Million Real Estate Investors

Create a free BiggerPockets account to comment, participate, and connect with over 3 million real estate investors.
Use your real name
By signing up, you indicate that you agree to the BiggerPockets Terms & Conditions.
The community here is like my own little personal real estate army that I can depend upon to help me through ANY problems I come across.
Guru, Book, & Course Reviews
All Forum Categories
Followed Discussions
Followed Categories
Followed People
Followed Locations
Market News & Data
General Info
Real Estate Strategies
Landlording & Rental Properties
Real Estate Professionals
Financial, Tax, & Legal
Real Estate Classifieds
Reviews & Feedback

Updated about 9 years ago on . Most recent reply

User Stats

1,871
Posts
1,458
Votes
Larry Turowski
  • Flipper/Rehabber
  • Rochester, NY
1,458
Votes |
1,871
Posts

Can we come up with something to replace BRRR?

Larry Turowski
  • Flipper/Rehabber
  • Rochester, NY
Posted

Every time a see or hear BRRR (Buy, Rent, Rehab, Refinance), I just...I don't know...I just bristle. It is cumbersome, awkward to pronounce, and can't be said without then saying what it stands for. Sorry @Brandon Turner!

Here's an idea.  Buy is a given, is it not?  I think we all know its about buying a property.  Rent is implied by the Refi part.  We wouldn't refi if we weren't holding.  And we wouldn't hold an empty property.

How about just Rehab, Refi?  Anybody else have a better idea?

Most Popular Reply

User Stats

21,918
Posts
12,876
Votes
Bill Gulley#3 Guru, Book, & Course Reviews Contributor
  • Investor, Entrepreneur, Educator
  • Springfield, MO
12,876
Votes |
21,918
Posts
Bill Gulley#3 Guru, Book, & Course Reviews Contributor
  • Investor, Entrepreneur, Educator
  • Springfield, MO
Replied

You can do the same thing by renting and refinancing.

What's the extent of the rehab side? Paint and carpet, hang a new front door? Or are we adding a master suite and blowing out a dinning room for a great room? 

Don't you "rehab" to some extent to increase value?

Some value add to get more rents?

It's still part of the old buy and hold.

Don't you refi to get at unused equity to leverage another property? You don't really have to refinance it, just use it as additional collateral. That can be cheaper to do.

"A Rose by any other name would smell as sweet" William Shakespear, Romeo and Juliet.

Younger people getting into real estate who haven't learned real estate and won't, have a hard time with conceptual-logic, maybe computer games cause that, I don't know, they don't seem to be mastering the game of chess either. They need a name to identify a step by step approach so they can grasp a process. Checkers, not chess.  

Seems that if it doesn't have a name, it's not a strategy, at least one that can be conveyed.

It doesn't matter what it's called, by any other name it can be the same concept.

(Why do you think I named a tenants in common method TIC, TAC, TOE? It's simple and stands for 3 aspects used, not much thinking to it.....LOL)

BRRRRRRRRRRRR or BRRRR (buy, rehab, rent, refinance, repeat, repeat, repeat....)

I have to say, Brandon could make watching grass grow sound exciting!

I have similar feelings saying "lease-options" which is an option to lease after the initial term. "Lease-Option to Buy" is what they mean.

We have conflicting definitions used by investors, it's part of information engineering to describe concepts to be recognized by those that can't recognize the underlying functions of a process. Another example, "creative financing" and "seller financing or a Sub-To" all lumped together as being creative. Nothing "creative" about those tactics.

Why not just call it the "Brandon Deal"? The method has been around for a hundred years, probably much longer, but it's the sizzle and puff that seems to excite. :)  

Loading replies...