Marijuana Dispensary Rentals - Marijuana Friendly Landlords

Marijuana Dispensary Rentals - Marijuana Friendly Landlords

Investor · Toronto, Ontario · Member since 2017 · 116 posts · 20 votes

Hey BP,

This is a Toronto specific question!

In Toronto, Marijuana dispensaries are opening and closing monthly, the businesses are operating in a "grey area" of the law until marijuana is federally leagalize in July of 2018. I have a few business associates who own some dispensaries and they tell me that the biggest struggle they face when opening and operating a Dispensary in Toronto, Canada is finding a "Marijuana Dispendary" friendly landlord to lease from.

Often terms are as follows, in addition to first and last months rent the lessees pay a deposit of anywhere between 3-5 months of rent. Here in downtown Toronto a good location will have an average monthly rent of $9-12k . Lets say the deposit is $30-50k. Should the lessees leave on their own accord, i.e. if the police shut them down, or business isn't good, the landlord keeps the deposit. Should the landlord decide to terminate then the deposit is returned.

As there is a "Green Rush" with marijuana here in Toronto, I am very intrigued by the real estate aspect of this.

My questions are as follows:

1. What is the downside to the landlord in the event the dispensary closes up shop? They get to keep the deposit and then rent to someone else, seems good to me.

2. In the event the police shut down the dispensary what are worst case scenarios for the landlord? I.e. mortgage holder could terminate loan?

3. What other ways could you persuade landlords to rent to dispensaries as many are scared of the stigma that comes with as well as the legal ramifications?

4. What kind of specifics should landlords put in their leases to dispenaries to protect both them and the lessee?

Thanks for you input guys!

- Neil

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Rental Property Investor · Toronto, Ontario · Member since 2012 · 538 posts · 298 votes
8y

Neil,

My family owns some commercial in a prime location and we have been approached many many times in the past 2+ years regarding a dispensary. Leaving the current vs future legalities aside, the point that @Claude Boiron  made regarding 'unsavory' use is near / at the top of our list for not considering allowing one at the property.

As a landlord you should consider the tenant mix. For example, and being extreme, imagine if you had a day care center or after school tutoring school in a unit. Gaining a dispensary tenant may mean loosing another tenant. Also if you have class 'A' tenant (e.g. Starbucks), they may not want the association and take the first opportunity to move.

Oren

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    Real Estate Broker · Cody, WY · Member since 2010 · 28k+ posts · 41k+ votes
    9y

    This is a complex legal question and you're trying to get free advice from unknown amateurs from a different country? Have you been imbibing in some of the product?

    If you are serious about pursuing this, go find a Toronto attorney.

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  • Investor · Toronto, Ontario · Member since 2017 · 116 posts · 20 votes
    8y
    Originally posted by @Nathan Gesner:

    This is a complex legal question and you're trying to get free advice from unknown amateurs from a different country? Have you been imbibing in some of the product?

    If you are serious about pursuing this, go find a Toronto attorney.

     Unknown amateurs from a different country? Were in the Real Estate In Canada forum. There are many BP members from Canada.

    If you have nothing to offer, don't post a reply.

  • Real Estate Educator, Mentor, Investor · Toronto, Ontario · Member since 2015 · 206 posts · 86 votes
    8y

    Hi @Neil Da Silva!

    First of all, the use is still technically illegal, which is why Toronto dispensaries are regularly raided by police, and they keep very little cash and product on the premises (they have multiple courier runs every day).

    1. The use is illegal, so some of my conservative/cautious landlord clients don't want any association with it. Furthermore, some landlords (and other tenants), view this is an unsavoury retail use (similar to tattoo shops), and so don't want it.

    2. I don't know - legal opinion needed.

    3. I educate landlords about the use, but I don't push them if they are set against it.

    4. Make sure that the Tenant and Indemnifier have a strong covenant, and assets you can go after if things get bad (as with and commercial lease). Both of the previously named parties should unreservedly indemnify the Landlord against anything and everything.

    Good luck!

    Claude

  • Investor · Toronto, Ontario · Member since 2017 · 116 posts · 20 votes
    8y
    Originally posted by @Claude Boiron:

    Hi @Neil Da Silva!

    First of all, the use is still technically illegal, which is why Toronto dispensaries are regularly raided by police, and they keep very little cash and product on the premises (they have multiple courier runs every day).

    1. The use is illegal, so some of my conservative/cautious landlord clients don't want any association with it. Furthermore, some landlords (and other tenants), view this is an unsavoury retail use (similar to tattoo shops), and so don't want it.

    2. I don't know - legal opinion needed.

    3. I educate landlords about the use, but I don't push them if they are set against it.

    4. Make sure that the Tenant and Indemnifier have a strong covenant, and assets you can go after if things get bad (as with and commercial lease). Both of the previously named parties should unreservedly indemnify the Landlord against anything and everything.

    Good luck!

    Claude

     Thanks for your input, Lets connect.

    I'd love to have a conversation with you.

  • Rental Property Investor · Toronto, Ontario · Member since 2012 · 538 posts · 298 votes
    8y

    Neil,

    My family owns some commercial in a prime location and we have been approached many many times in the past 2+ years regarding a dispensary. Leaving the current vs future legalities aside, the point that @Claude Boiron  made regarding 'unsavory' use is near / at the top of our list for not considering allowing one at the property.

    As a landlord you should consider the tenant mix. For example, and being extreme, imagine if you had a day care center or after school tutoring school in a unit. Gaining a dispensary tenant may mean loosing another tenant. Also if you have class 'A' tenant (e.g. Starbucks), they may not want the association and take the first opportunity to move.

    Oren

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