Skip to content
×
Pro Members Get
Full Access!
Get off the sidelines and take action in real estate investing with BiggerPockets Pro. Our comprehensive suite of tools and resources minimize mistakes, support informed decisions, and propel you to success.
Advanced networking features
Market and Deal Finder tools
Property analysis calculators
Landlord Command Center
ANNUAL Save 54%
$32.50 /mo
$390 billed annualy
MONTHLY
$69 /mo
billed monthly
7 day free trial. Cancel anytime
×
Take Your Forum Experience
to the Next Level
Create a free account and join over 3 million investors sharing
their journeys and helping each other succeed.
Use your real name
By signing up, you indicate that you agree to the BiggerPockets Terms & Conditions.
Already a member?  Login here
Tax Liens & Mortgage Notes
All Forum Categories
Followed Discussions
Followed Categories
Followed People
Followed Locations
Market News & Data
General Info
Real Estate Strategies
Landlording & Rental Properties
Real Estate Professionals
Financial, Tax, & Legal
Real Estate Classifieds
Reviews & Feedback

Updated about 5 years ago on . Most recent reply

User Stats

77
Posts
19
Votes
Ray Trounday
  • San Bruno, CA
19
Votes |
77
Posts

Arriving at Effective Rate/Yield for a Note with a Balloon

Ray Trounday
  • San Bruno, CA
Posted

I have been working my HP 10bii to arrive at the Effective Rate/Yield on purchase of a note with a balloon.  Lets set aside for the moment the likely-hood of having the borrower actually pay the balloon.  In most cases, borrowers will need to refinance prior to having the balloon due.  I digress back to my example:

Loan Type: 5 year loan with balloon (Payment amortized over 30 years

Original Loan Balance: 100000

Rate: 9.99

Payment: -876.83

Amortization Term: 360


 I will need to first calculate the balance that is due on the 60th payment.  So, I do the following:


N: 60

I/YR: 9.99

PV: 100,000

Payment: -876.83

Calculate FV

Balance due: -96,957.91


Lets say that I buy the full note for 70k. So, I modify my PV from 100k to 70k leaving everything else the same from above

PV: 70,000

N: 60

Payment: -876.83

I arrive at Effective Rate/Yield: 19.56


Thoughts on the correctness on the above?

Most Popular Reply

User Stats

1,530
Posts
1,103
Votes
Andy Mirza
  • Lender
  • Ladera Ranch, CA
1,103
Votes |
1,530
Posts
Andy Mirza
  • Lender
  • Ladera Ranch, CA
Replied

@Ray Trounday I haven't checked your work but it seems intuitively correct to me. However, I think IRR would be a lot more of a useful metric because it will include your the delta between your purchase price and the balloon payment. With regular cash flows over a five year period, it should be pretty quick to figure out, even on your calculator (as opposed to excel). Just my thoughts....

Loading replies...