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James Holmes
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Saw the same 2nd NPNs for sale 2 months ago - Curious why

James Holmes
  • Oceanside, CA
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Good Evening Everyone,


I have gotten really interested in the note space over the past couple of months. I was going through some of the notes for sale on a reputable site and realized that some of them were the same notes for sale as two months ago when I first looked at the website, which leads me to my question. 

They're all current on their senior mortgage, the FMV provided on the property is well above what the senior UPB is. Their provided credit scores (as of 9 months ago) are decent and there are no reported bankruptcy cases, but they are all located in Connecticut. My question is, why are these notes still listed for sale? From basic due diligence, unless I am missing something, they seem like these would be decent investments. Is there something with CT laws that is deterring people from purchasing these notes? I would imagine if they were a good deal they would have been soaked up; there has to be something I'm missing.

Thanks for giving this a read! Have a great night!

V/r

JT Holmes

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Patrick Desjardins
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Patrick Desjardins
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It's hard to tell without knowing which website you're talking about, and there can be many reasons. 

- They could want too much for it. There's an expression in the note space that there are no bad notes, just bad prices.

- The collateral might not be complete.

- The seller may be unresponsive. (is it a company's website or an exchange like FCI?)

- Going back to them wanting too much for it, they may be using an AVM number that is way off and anyone doing basic due diligence knows it. (ie they claim the house is worth 200k and has equity, but it's obviously worth 150k and underwater)

- CT isn't in most people's top 5 for a few reasons. First you don't see that many notes from there as opposed to midwest and south east states, and second, north eastern states usually scare people because of taxes and liberal courts.

- They could have found a buyer and then he backed out, which happens.

You would have to be more detailed but these are a handful of basic reasons why some notes sit.

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