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Relationship with hard money lender first or find a deal first?
New to navigating the world of flipping and I'm in an extremely hot buyer's market. On the retail side of things, everything is overpriced and still disappearing like ice in a desert (fitting, since I'm in Tucson).
However, I still believe there are deals out there for a first time flipper like me that's willing to take a relatively small profit on a flip project for the sake of better understanding the process.
What I'm struggling with is knowing what pieces of the puzzle need to be in place before which. Say I am able to identify a potential deal (drive by or craigslist ad, etc).
Do I run the best analysis I can on it and quickly shop local hard money lenders (I've got no private money connections or existing equity to work with)?
Or do I establish some relationships with hard money lenders first?
My worry is that if I don't have the proper pieces in place I will miss the small windows of opportunity that do present themselves.
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I wouldn't count yourself out. The very first deal I ever had was funded 100% with closing cost included and I got 5K at closing through a HML. Now what you have to do is some legwork. Go find a deal that already produces income and is selling below market value. Usually you can find an older person who bought it way back when and isn't sure of the value. Generally it's a building that needs some updating and TLC. Make it a deal the HML absolutely can't lose and you can get it done!
BTW my first deal went like this:
Sales Price $45K
Appraised $90K
ARV $125K
Loaned $65K
Gross Rent $2200/mo
I had no job and no income when I bought this building! I found the HML cold calling every lender in NYC.
Where there is a will, there is a way! No matter the obstacles.