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Updated about 13 years ago on . Most recent reply

Potential Flip: Engineer's report not able to level foundation
Hey all,
This is my 1st post, but I have been following the site for almost year. The information is great, but I've got a question about a potential flip that I can't find any info on.
I am in the Dallas area and there is a historic home in a great area but it has some major foundation issues. Normally I try to stay away from foundation problem but I was think since this is a pier and beam it might be affordable (which it is). The question is if it's worth it.
The realtor had and engineer look at that house and he has stated that it is not possible to get the house completely level and if you try it could damage the structure.
I was wondering this would have on the impact of the value and the ability to resell a property?
The property is a 1945 pier and beam home that has a lot of good qualities and has already been half rehabbed, but it needs 39 new piers and 5 beams of 90', 43', 2x26' and 20'. The floors are visibly uneven in just about every room.
I have estimates for the work ranging from 12-17k and I think I can buy the property for cheap, but am unsure about how the foundation will affect this property. If the property can be purchase cheap enough is it worth the risk?
Will it be really difficult to resell even if the repairs are done?
At what point do you give up and it becomes a tear down? The property has a lot new items throughout and I find it hard to believe it's not worth saving.
Thanks
Most Popular Reply

Get another engineer and a GC who knows what he is looking at. Preferably, get a GC who has a good relationship with an engineer.
The engineer may mean "sheetrock/wall repair" by "damage the structure" or he may mean "Woe unto your framing"
Most of the time when we talk about jacking a house up... yeah, there are going to be some secondary repairs needed. Case in point, we jacked up a brick house almost 4" on a corner crack, and had to repair the brick face and interior sheetrock. That's just kinda how it goes.
The question is not - "Will jacking the house up damage the rest of the house"... the question is, "Will the damage be so catastrophic that repairs will be impossible or too expensive to consider"
The fact that your engineer says you need 39 new beams is pretty concerning. That's not a bit of light repair work, that's a pretty considerable amount of foundation even for a new house. You need to think hard about what it's going to take to put those beams in, and what sort of damage you're going to have to repair after you've fixed the foundation.
By the time you do all that, you may be talking about considerable flooring, wall, and ceiling repairs. The framing might start splintering and warping... in short, you may end up surgically rebuilding the house.
In general, new construction beats surgical rebuilds for time and cost.
If you don't know exactly what you're looking at and exactly what is involved, you need to STOP and back that gravy train up... get someone involved who knows how to surgically rebuild, and build new, and get an honest opinion (be prepared to pay for it) about what you need to be doing here.