ARCHITECT OR DESIGNERS, YOUR HELP IS NEEDED

ARCHITECT OR DESIGNERS, YOUR HELP IS NEEDED

Karen MargraveBusiness Member
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Realtor, General Contractor, and Developer · Redding, CA · Member since 2009 · 7k+ posts · 4k+ votes

We are starting a fix/flip in Sunriver, OR. We had an idea of what we wanted to do on the exterior, but are rethinking. It currently has a roofline that comes all the way down to within a few feet of the ground on one side. We had planned on cutting it back up to match the other side. However; when looking at it, it has practical value. For those coming back from snow activities, with wet clothes, skis, snowboards, etc. it's a great way to go through the garage into the house, and the cover keeps snowfall off the walkways. We will also be taking out the lava rock bbq, refinishing decks, and adding a hot tub (which needs to be screened)  

QUESTION:  That area next to the garage is where the garbage can is, and then there's a large storage area. Can you think of any way to keep the practicality of this but update it? Sunriver is very picky about colors and styles, they want "natural" and it needs to fit in with existing homes, etc. which all have some variation of siding, windows have to be beige or gray, etc. Interior is being updated, opened up, and will be rustic modern, where the 3 windows on the side of house are, we will be adding a large slider.  On outside we are going to include some stone and wood on frong of garage, etc. But... that one side is perplexing. 

Any architects, designers with some creative ideas? 

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Architect · Seattle, WA · Member since 2017 · 160 posts · 81 votes
8y

@Karen Margrave I agree with @Jared W Smith that moving the roof line in almost any situation isn't the cheapest option as far as renovations are concerned, that being said if it makes an interior space that was previously used for storage into something more usable there may be value in the change. I've attached a quick sketch of what the new roof line might look like where a lower sloped shed (similar to the one on the other side) is added. This should open up the low side of the roof and the primary work will be extending the walls below to meet the new pitch after removing the existing portion of roof. Not stepping it and creating a second roof as shown on the existing side keeps you from having to add additional gutters and gives you better control of where the water is ultimately going. All of this would need to be looked at by a structural consultant but at first glance this seems like a pretty straightforward renovation.

Let me know if you have any questions,

Dave 

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  • David RobertsonBusiness Member
    Flipper/Rehabber · Kansas City, MO · Member since 2010 · 758 posts · 780 votes
    8y

    I am thinking you could fence-in that area with a horizontal wood slat style fence & gate...here's some inspiration from Pinterest...

    Horizontal wood slat fence

    This would hide the garbage bins and tie together the stone, & wood you install on the garage...

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  • Karen MargraveBusiness Member
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    Realtor, General Contractor, and Developer · Redding, CA · Member since 2009 · 7k+ posts · 4k+ votes
    8y

    The question is, do we take that right side of the house and pull the roofline up to be even with the other, and eliminate the shed portion? I'm thinking that's more practical. The only problem is that when we do that, if you look at the photo of the back where that blue umbrella is, it's the bump out for the stairs, and the roofline would no longer cover it. 

    @David Robertson Thanks for the advice. I love horizontal fencing, but on this, I don't think it would work. Besides, HOA wouldn't allow it as it counts towards lot coverage.

  • Karen MargraveBusiness Member
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    Realtor, General Contractor, and Developer · Redding, CA · Member since 2009 · 7k+ posts · 4k+ votes
    8y

    @David Edwards I know you're an architect, and in WA, which has that northwest style .. any suggestions? How's your investing going? Doing any flips?

  • Jared W SmithBusiness Member
    Architect · Westchester County, NY · Member since 2018 · 682 posts · 476 votes
    8y

    @Karen Margrave I'm trying to understand what the benefit is to cut back the roof other than aesthetically alteration and removal of shed. If you are removing this just for the purpose of "updating," then I would say to just leave it. 

    I've encountered revising the roof line for a horizontal or vertical expansion/addition but seems like a lot if this isn't the outcome. The roof-line is so prominent in this home. Messing with it may make it quirky if not adhering to the original style of the home. What are you ultimately trying to achieve on the outside? Gain interior space?    

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  • Architect · Seattle, WA · Member since 2017 · 160 posts · 81 votes
    8y

    @Karen Margrave I agree with @Jared W Smith that moving the roof line in almost any situation isn't the cheapest option as far as renovations are concerned, that being said if it makes an interior space that was previously used for storage into something more usable there may be value in the change. I've attached a quick sketch of what the new roof line might look like where a lower sloped shed (similar to the one on the other side) is added. This should open up the low side of the roof and the primary work will be extending the walls below to meet the new pitch after removing the existing portion of roof. Not stepping it and creating a second roof as shown on the existing side keeps you from having to add additional gutters and gives you better control of where the water is ultimately going. All of this would need to be looked at by a structural consultant but at first glance this seems like a pretty straightforward renovation.

    Let me know if you have any questions,

    Dave 

  • Architect · Seattle, WA · Member since 2017 · 160 posts · 81 votes
    8y

    @Karen Margrave As far as my investing is concerned I'm closing on a duplex this week and am in the research / outreach portion of my goals of self development. I'd love to get involved in the flipping world but have been trying to get this duplex squared away prior to exploring other avenues. Might not be a bad idea to get involved by being the architect for a few peoples projects on this site. If you have any lessons learned to share it would be much appreciated. 

  • Karen MargraveBusiness Member
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    Realtor, General Contractor, and Developer · Redding, CA · Member since 2009 · 7k+ posts · 4k+ votes
    8y

    @David Edwards Thank you so much! We're coming from building modern style houses in coastal CA, and I just have been having such a hard time wrapping my head around this house! Your suggestion makes sense. 

    As to getting involved on others projects, I'd suggest you come on to BP consistently and participate in the forums. Answer questions and let people see the value you have. I answer questions on BP all the time in regard to construction, development, real estate because those are the things I know. 

    Once people realize you know what you're talking about they will reach out to you if they have something where they need an architect. If you're interested in getting in on projects as an architect, you can always post something on Marketplace. 

    Also, if you want to do joint ventures, you can advertise that there too. Basically everything on a project has value. Architects fees are one of the spendier costs. You can invest your fees into the project to show a portion of the skin in the game etc. to lenders. Good luck. Message me if you want to discuss any of this more. Thanks again. 

  • Real Estate Agent · Grand Junction, CO · Member since 2015 · 1k+ posts · 736 votes
    8y

    @Karen Margrave I would balance the "heaviness" of the low roof side by enhancing the columns on the other side. They have function but lack scale for the long porch / roof. I've attached a photo. You can just encapsulate what is there. As far as the low roof - I would keep it. Dress up the driveway side of the little shed with a rustic bench, maybe a fake window & flower box. I think future owners will be so grateful for the protection & practicality it offers. If the architectural control committee will allow, change the bump outs around the garage door and trim around the windows to a shade that is 50% lighter than the primary paint color on the exterior. This will pop it a little. 

  • Karen MargraveBusiness Member
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    Realtor, General Contractor, and Developer · Redding, CA · Member since 2009 · 7k+ posts · 4k+ votes
    8y

    @Teri Feeney Styers Great idea! We definitely will do that. 

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