Can I turn a hard money loan into a traditional loan?

Can I turn a hard money loan into a traditional loan?

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I am rehabbing and flipping a property in Chicago 3br/3ba. I took out a hard money loan on the project but unfortunately the house needs alot more work than I originally intended and I don't think I'll make a reasonable profit by selling it. I'm not happy with some of the contractors work. Can I convert my hard money loan into a traditional loan with a mortgage company so I can try to turn it into a rental instead? Do most hard company officers frown upon this?

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Member since 2022 · 142 posts · 61 votes
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Quote from @Leanne Sorg:

I am rehabbing and flipping a property in Chicago 3br/3ba. I took out a hard money loan on the project but unfortunately the house needs alot more work than I originally intended and I don't think I'll make a reasonable profit by selling it. I'm not happy with some of the contractors work. Can I convert my hard money loan into a traditional loan with a mortgage company so I can try to turn it into a rental instead? Do most hard company officers frown upon this?

You state you are rehabbing and flipping. If the house is unfinished you would not be able to get traditional financing. You can do a rate term refinance when the house is finished and turn it into a rental but this would have to disclosed to the new lender as such. There would be a maximum LTV the bank would refinance because it is a rental property. Rate would be higher and points as well. 
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  • Lender · Fountain, CO · Member since 2022 · 124 posts · 32 votes
    4y

    In my experience, as long as the loan can be paid off they won't care. 
    I've had people do Ground up construction then refinance at the end of their build into a long term owner occupied loan.

  • Real Estate Agent · FL · Member since 2022 · 54 posts · 31 votes
    4y
    Quote from @Leanne Sorg:

    I am rehabbing and flipping a property in Chicago 3br/3ba. I took out a hard money loan on the project but unfortunately the house needs alot more work than I originally intended and I don't think I'll make a reasonable profit by selling it. I'm not happy with some of the contractors work. Can I convert my hard money loan into a traditional loan with a mortgage company so I can try to turn it into a rental instead? Do most hard company officers frown upon this?


     Hey Leanne,

    Yeah you can refi into a more manageable loan. Consider first that it also comes with closing costs.  

  • Investor · Ashburn, VA · Member since 2020 · 140 posts · 145 votes
    4y

    I don't see why they would care. As long as they get their principal + points/interest back then it shouldn't matter if it is from a sale or refi. Usually the issue comes into play when you do the opposite of this and get a long-term (permanent) loan and then end up selling or refinancing shortly after the loan was originated. A lot of commercial/bank loans come with prepayment penalties to prevent this from happening, but you shouldn't have that with your hard money loan. 

  • Erik EstradaBusiness Member
    Lender · Member since 2022 · 6k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    4y
    Quote from @Leanne Sorg:

    I am rehabbing and flipping a property in Chicago 3br/3ba. I took out a hard money loan on the project but unfortunately the house needs alot more work than I originally intended and I don't think I'll make a reasonable profit by selling it. I'm not happy with some of the contractors work. Can I convert my hard money loan into a traditional loan with a mortgage company so I can try to turn it into a rental instead? Do most hard company officers frown upon this?


     It varies from lender to lender. If it is still in rehab and the appraiser notes that it is not in livable condition then you will run into issues. 

    But generally yes, you can refi into a fixed DSCR loan if you plan to keep it as a rental.

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  • Real Estate Investor · Burlington, VT · Member since 2010 · 2k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    4y

    @Leanne Sorg Most HML's want you to sell or refinance the loan, since HML is shorter term only. In fact, they generally want you to have an exit plan up front.

    Now can you "convert" your existing HML into a different loan, mostly likely not. You'll have to refinance so the HML gets paid.

    As a future note, try working with smaller local banks and their commercial lending department. I've done a number of loans that were similar to HML (lending on properties that needed major rehab) and then it converted into a regular mortgage once the rehab was complete. So no refinance, 2nd set of closing costs, etc. Plus just a standard 5 - 6% rate (a few years ago) for the whole term.

    Good luck!

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    Real Estate Broker · Chicago, IL · Member since 2014 · 2k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    4y
    Quote from @Leanne Sorg:

    I am rehabbing and flipping a property in Chicago 3br/3ba. I took out a hard money loan on the project but unfortunately the house needs alot more work than I originally intended and I don't think I'll make a reasonable profit by selling it. I'm not happy with some of the contractors work. Can I convert my hard money loan into a traditional loan with a mortgage company so I can try to turn it into a rental instead? Do most hard company officers frown upon this?


    What your considering is actually part of a strategy that many investors use, buy, renovate, rent, refinance.  There are a number of lenders that will refinance anywhere from 70 to 80% of the value. Some will want you to have the property occupied with a tenant before refinancing though. If the property appraisers out well you may actually be able to not only pay off your hard money lender but pull cash out of the deal.
  • Investor · Austin, TX · Member since 2021 · 9k+ posts · 5k+ votes
    4y

    You can do something called a rate & term that literally switches the interest rate and loan length. It's easier for lenders 

  • Contractor · Scottsdale, AZ · Member since 2010 · 2k+ posts · 3k+ votes
    4y

    I have a lender who will do a conversion from hard money fix & flip financing to longer term rental financing at the end. But the loan needs to be set up that way from day 1.

    As others have suggested your best bet will be to find a lender who can refinance you out of this loan.

  • Member since 2022 · 142 posts · 61 votes
    4y
    Quote from @Leanne Sorg:

    I am rehabbing and flipping a property in Chicago 3br/3ba. I took out a hard money loan on the project but unfortunately the house needs alot more work than I originally intended and I don't think I'll make a reasonable profit by selling it. I'm not happy with some of the contractors work. Can I convert my hard money loan into a traditional loan with a mortgage company so I can try to turn it into a rental instead? Do most hard company officers frown upon this?

    You state you are rehabbing and flipping. If the house is unfinished you would not be able to get traditional financing. You can do a rate term refinance when the house is finished and turn it into a rental but this would have to disclosed to the new lender as such. There would be a maximum LTV the bank would refinance because it is a rental property. Rate would be higher and points as well. 
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