Phase timelines...when you are wrong...how wrong are you....

Phase timelines...when you are wrong...how wrong are you....

Rental Property Investor · San Antonio, TX · Member since 2021 · 68 posts · 28 votes

TLDR: When you are wrong on estimating TIME in a phase of a construction project....how off are you?   x1.5?  x3?  x6? x 10?  And yes I know the technical answer is "IT DEPENDS" so I will ask that we skip the micro as this is a question about MACRO for the purpose of understanding risk.

Detailed:

So I am a big fan of PERT method for estimating time of work.  PERT works with an optimistic number, expected, and pessimistic number gives you a planned amount based on a bell curve (which you can skew if you choose).   I come from the software world and when you have a feature you have to estimate a distribution that has worked well for me is this.

Expected Time of feature is 1 week.

  • Values a function of typical load.
  • Optimistic value: .8 of expected (When its better than expected its really only 20% better)
  • Expected value: 1 of expected time
  • Pessimistic value: x 6 of expected time.  (When we are wrong...its not a little wrong its usually off by a lot from things we cannot predict.)

Using the Normal Distribution (Normal Bell Curve)

Normal PERT

  • = (Optimistic Value + Expected Value*4 + Pessimist Value) / 6 
  • = (.8 + 1*4 + 6)/6 = 10.8/6 
  • = Planned Value of 1.8 Weeks
  • *I use this if residual risk is low

Negatively Skewed PERT  

  • = (Optimistic Value + Expected Value*3 + Pessimist Value*2) / 6
  • = (.8 + 1*3 + 6*2)/6 = 15.8/6
  • = Planned Value of 2.63
  • *I use this if if the residual risk is medium

Very Negatively Skewed PERT

  • = (Optimistic Value + Expected Value*2 + Pessimist Value*3) / 6
  • = (.8 + 1*2 + 6*3)/6 = 20.8/6
  • = Planned Value of 3.46
  • *I use this if if the residual risk is medium

In my professional life this approach has served me very well.  So when you are wrong on estimating TIME in a phase of a construction project, in general....how off are you? x1.5? x3? x6? x 10?  And yes I know the technical answer is "IT DEPENDS" so I will ask that we skip the micro as this is a question about MACRO for the purpose of understanding risk.

Thanks I appreciate your help!

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    • Investor · Daytona/Ormond Beach Fl, Charleston/Summerville SC · Member since 2017 · 156 posts · 73 votes
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      @Corbett Brasington

      Corbett, I am a retired engineer and did some project management as well. I am also an investor in single family rentals and in multi family DST's and syndications. If you are talking about new construction for a multi family apartment you have experience with a good tool for the job and I suggest you ask your very detailed and analytical questions to contractors. If you a considering new construction for SFR's then I would suggest that send your time looking at what it takes to make a Positive cash flowing deal. I think you will find those deals are anything but new construction. Just IMHO.

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